>But there have also been some recent examples (ca this century) that I found quite impressive, usually characterized by a short violent burst of crazyness and

>But there have also been some recent examples (ca this century) that I found quite impressive, usually characterized by a short violent burst of crazyness and then everybody is dead, heavily inured or routing, and maybe slowly beginning to consider that perhaps they haven't actually lost. I enjoyed the fighting scenes in the animated show _Invincible_ much more than any fight scenes I've seen in a Marvel film for this reason. Explosive and (usually) consequential.