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As someone who worked for MSFT for so long, this bit really makes me happy - mostly since no one would have given this much odds of happening. "With the introd
by sriramk 15y ago
As someone who worked for MSFT for so long, this bit really makes me happy - mostly since no one would have given this much odds of happening.
"With the introduction of OS X Lion, Apple gave us a glimpse at what a post-PC operating system might look like, and now Microsoft's gone and pushed that idea to the limit. If Cupertino's latest was a tease, than Windows 8 is full frontal. And we have to admit, we like what we see. "
- dr_rezzy 15y agoThis makes me really excited about the future of the 'desktop' ( => tablet). Microsoft has really nailed it in terms of user experience and performance. This is a good example of out innovating the competition and no other company is better suited to execute on this than Microsoft.
- nextparadigms 15y agoHow do you know they nailed it in terms of performance? It's running on a Core i5, on which even Vista or Windows 7 runs well. We don't know how well it will run on Atom or ARM yet, which will be the "tablet optimized" chips, with higher battery life. The Core i5 will give 2 hours of battery life, especially in such a small package compared to a notebook.
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- barista 15y agoThey did show an ARM tablet as well. Besides by the time it is released, processors would have gotten even better.
- barista 15y agoJust see the keynote again. It actually uses less resources even today as compared to Windows 7 SP1.
- erikpukinskis 15y agoWhat kind of battery life does Windows 7 SP1 get on tablets?
- barista 15y agoDon't know. A quick search brought up this page where the tablet gets a 7 for battery life. So I am guessing its ok. http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/acer-iconia-tab-w500p/4505-3126_7-34546373.html#reviewPage1 http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/acer-iconia-tab-w500p/4505-3...
- wanorris 15y agoThe $550 Acer Iconia W500 tablet (which comes with an attachable keyboard base) got 4:06 on a Cnet video playback battery drain test. http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/acer-iconia-tab-w500p/4505-3126_7-34546373-2.html?tag=rvwBody http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/acer-iconia-tab-w500p/4505-3... Acer isn't exactly known for brilliant power engineering, so a better vendor could likely do better. But this also wasn't exactly a high-powered chip, either. So this is probably a plausible baseline for battery usage in Win 7. They need to beat this by quite a bit in Win 8, or the tablets will be a tough sell.
- Tyrannosaurs 15y agoGiven that the iPad 2 gets 11 hours + in similar tests I don't think that's a tough sell, I think it's an impossible sell.
- sunchild 15y agoIt's hard to relate to the excitement when the demo was chock-full of usability failure. How many times did the presenters struggle to register their gestures? Someone will no doubt say "it's a developer release – we'll fix all that". My response to that is "Apple would never let that see the outside of a top-secret lab". Also, am I the only person who thinks this is the polar opposite of "post-PC"? Desktop, start menu, right-click, etc. Maybe "touch PC" is more apt?
- jeffjose 15y agoThe presenter struggles because on the one hand he has a camera and the other he uses to swipe/touch. I'm not suggesting the beta/dev preview version is without bugs, I believe you're reading too much into this.
- coyotej 15y agoI'd argue that's "presentation" failure. This is something that can be practiced so as to keep the focus on the product and not on the sloppiness due to lack of preparedness.
- toddheasley 15y agoI'd argue that you can hand an iPad to your grandmother with severe arthritis or your toddler for the first time and they wouldn't have nearly as much trouble as the presenter in the video.
- recoiledsnake 15y agoWhy would you give your grandmother a prototype tablet that will never see a production release?
- tomkarlo 15y agoWhy would you demo a prototype?
- volandovengo 15y agoDitto. Hats off to Sinofsky for having the balls to push this through. Looks like an amazing release. I think he'll take over from Ballmer if Windows 8 is a success.
- Steko 15y ago"With ... OS X Lion, Apple gave us a glimpse at what a post-PC operating system might look like" Cheat Sheet for People Who Type Stuff for Engadget And Want To Be Good at Other Things Too: iOS = post PC Lion = first step in bridging PC and post-PC Windows 8 = [strikethrough] your grandpa trying to rap [/strikethrough] second step to bridging PC and post-PC
- absconditus 15y agoI did not really understand what was meant by this. What is it about Windows 8 that is going to provide a better user experience? It certainly looks a bit different from other offerings, but I cannot discern what it is that people think is better.
- barista 15y agoHere's what I am excited about as a developer. Access to live service such as skydrive etc. Ability to release the same app on windows phone with minimal changes. =Touch enabled apps in a marketplace where Microsoft does not take a cut as opposed to the 30% cut that Apple takes. What's not to be excited about?
- absconditus 15y agoWhy would a user care about these things?
- barista 15y agoHere's why: No cut to microsoft so cheaper prices of apps Familiar apps on both my phone and on my tablet/PC. No learning curve and settings/progress/data is shared Live services integration means my app roams with me to another PC when I buy one.
- Someone 15y agoI am not sure we will see lower prices. Firstly, prices in Apple's store already are, let's say, 'affordable' for most apps. Secondly, I think many apps are priced to what the market will bear, not to recoup costs plus some profit. Thirdly, running that store will cost MS money. They are not a charity, so I guess they will try and recover the costs in some way. What that way is, I do not know, but I would guess it would be in adverts, non-free options with better exposure and/or in the cost of Windows.