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You're thinking of 20 years ago. Most state schools are easily $20k for in state students once you add in the room and board. Then they try to get $50k from th

You're thinking of 20 years ago. Most state schools are easily $20k for in state students once you add in the room and board. Then they try to get $50k from the out-of-staters. Top flight state schools like Michigan, Cal Berkeley and Cornell start at $75k+ for out-of-staters. Of course financial aid does enter the picture for many students.

standardUser 5y ago
No, I am not thinking of twenty years ago, I accurately stated the cost of tuition today, which generally does not include renting a place to live, on-campus or otherwise, or a meal plan.
- Goronmon 5y ago
  Having a place to live and food to eat seems to me to be pretty important part of your education.
  - kapp_in_life 5y ago
    But is explicitly not tuition. If you weren't in school you would still need to eat and live somewhere.
    - Goronmon 5y ago
      But its still a cost you have to pay for somehow, and since you are, hopefully, going to classes, studying, and doing homework, you are largely preventing from having a job lucrative enough to pay for those things completely.
- iskander 5y ago
  I went to UIUC and paid ~$6k / year in-state (not including living costs). That has now increased dramatically to ~$20k/year. And, obviously, you still have to pay for living costs while you're a student and the part-time jobs typically available to you don't pay very much.
- ljhsiung 5y ago
  You didn't say "cost of tuition" in your original comment. Further, I think it's disingenuous to only consider tuition. Cost of living in e.g. Berkeley is ridiculous, literally more than tuition. [1] (I understand that living is not something Berkeley can fix, but it's very much their problem and a concern on students' minds, regardless of whose "fault" it is) To only consider tuition is a cost-shifting marketing tactic that these schools use so you don't focus on the bottom line. Their goal is to get you to attend. Period. Let's look at a less prestigious school-- UCSB tuition is about 12k, but total cost might be 24k (official estimate says 32k [2], but I have the random fees they have to not be applicable, e.g. "campus fees" or "books") [1] https://admissions.berkeley.edu/cost https://admissions.berkeley.edu/cost [2] https://www.finaid.ucsb.edu/cost-of-attendance https://www.finaid.ucsb.edu/cost-of-attendance
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standardUser 5y ago

No, I am not thinking of twenty years ago, I accurately stated the cost of tuition today, which generally does not include renting a place to live, on-campus or otherwise, or a meal plan.

Goronmon 5y ago
Having a place to live and food to eat seems to me to be pretty important part of your education.
- kapp_in_life 5y ago
  But is explicitly not tuition. If you weren't in school you would still need to eat and live somewhere.
  - Goronmon 5y ago
    But its still a cost you have to pay for somehow, and since you are, hopefully, going to classes, studying, and doing homework, you are largely preventing from having a job lucrative enough to pay for those things completely.
iskander 5y ago
I went to UIUC and paid ~$6k / year in-state (not including living costs). That has now increased dramatically to ~$20k/year. And, obviously, you still have to pay for living costs while you're a student and the part-time jobs typically available to you don't pay very much.
ljhsiung 5y ago
You didn't say "cost of tuition" in your original comment. Further, I think it's disingenuous to only consider tuition. Cost of living in e.g. Berkeley is ridiculous, literally more than tuition. [1] (I understand that living is not something Berkeley can fix, but it's very much their problem and a concern on students' minds, regardless of whose "fault" it is) To only consider tuition is a cost-shifting marketing tactic that these schools use so you don't focus on the bottom line. Their goal is to get you to attend. Period. Let's look at a less prestigious school-- UCSB tuition is about 12k, but total cost might be 24k (official estimate says 32k [2], but I have the random fees they have to not be applicable, e.g. "campus fees" or "books") [1] https://admissions.berkeley.edu/cost https://admissions.berkeley.edu/cost [2] https://www.finaid.ucsb.edu/cost-of-attendance https://www.finaid.ucsb.edu/cost-of-attendance
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