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> 200 years ago, it was unheard of That doesn't mean it didn't happen - I assume it happened more in the past and just almost never reported.

by Chris2048 5y ago

winnit 5y ago
Why would you assume that one type of killing was reported more than another kind? From the evidence I have gathered from primitive societies existing today without conventional legal apparatuses, they find the concept of murder within the society almost unthinkable and have no memory of such events taking place. On the other hand, it is not typically seen as murder to kill an outsider.
- folli 5y ago
  I assume there was (and partially still is) a very strict taboo on intrafamilial murder and abuse. It's very hard to hide a murder nowadays, but just looking at abuse, we know there are a lot of unreported cases even in a modern society. It must have been much worse in more 'primitive' societies.
- Chris2048 5y ago
  Who would report it? If parent kill their child they are unlikely to, if someone else kills their child they are likely to. > From the evidence I have gathered from primitive societies What evidence are you referring to? Also, again "unthinkable" is different from it not happening. In fact, it makes it even more likely to be covered up, if people don't care to investigate, or otherwise want to know.
- bluGill 5y ago
  I would assume that it happened but was passed off as an accident and not murder. That is a man runs crying to town "my wife is dead!", cries at the funeral, and gets community support as a man grieving his wife - she is dead because he poisoned her, or ensured she would get hit by those falling rocks that look like an accident, but if you don't have modern investigation you have no way of knowing that. (it can go the other way too of course) There are lots of ways to kill. Some will be investigated more than others.
- ksdale 5y ago
  On the other hand, I think it was common in a lot of places for a long time for families/clans to settle disputes internally - if someone was killed and everyone agreed it was justice, then it wouldn't end up reported/remarkable. This is probably the category that most intrafamily disputes would fall into.
- willyt 5y ago
  A lot of old fashioned nursery rhymes and children's stories are about evil step-parents?
heresie-dabord 5y ago
Also, during this period, the population moved from rural dwellings to cities, where there are (usually) more jobs and more written rules and policing. But note that in the period in question, the human population has increased by a factor of 7.[0] The population of the planet has more than doubled since 1970.[0] More people in cities. And more voices, more disagreements, and more misfortunes to report. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#Past_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#Past_populati...

> 200 years ago, it was unheard of That doesn't mean it didn't happen - I assume it happened more in the past and just almost never reported.

winnit 5y ago

Why would you assume that one type of killing was reported more than another kind? From the evidence I have gathered from primitive societies existing today without conventional legal apparatuses, they find the concept of murder within the society almost unthinkable and have no memory of such events taking place. On the other hand, it is not typically seen as murder to kill an outsider.

folli 5y ago
I assume there was (and partially still is) a very strict taboo on intrafamilial murder and abuse. It's very hard to hide a murder nowadays, but just looking at abuse, we know there are a lot of unreported cases even in a modern society. It must have been much worse in more 'primitive' societies.
Chris2048 5y ago
Who would report it? If parent kill their child they are unlikely to, if someone else kills their child they are likely to. > From the evidence I have gathered from primitive societies What evidence are you referring to? Also, again "unthinkable" is different from it not happening. In fact, it makes it even more likely to be covered up, if people don't care to investigate, or otherwise want to know.
bluGill 5y ago
I would assume that it happened but was passed off as an accident and not murder. That is a man runs crying to town "my wife is dead!", cries at the funeral, and gets community support as a man grieving his wife - she is dead because he poisoned her, or ensured she would get hit by those falling rocks that look like an accident, but if you don't have modern investigation you have no way of knowing that. (it can go the other way too of course) There are lots of ways to kill. Some will be investigated more than others.
ksdale 5y ago
On the other hand, I think it was common in a lot of places for a long time for families/clans to settle disputes internally - if someone was killed and everyone agreed it was justice, then it wouldn't end up reported/remarkable. This is probably the category that most intrafamily disputes would fall into.
willyt 5y ago
A lot of old fashioned nursery rhymes and children's stories are about evil step-parents?

heresie-dabord 5y ago

Also, during this period, the population moved from rural dwellings to cities, where there are (usually) more jobs and more written rules and policing. But note that in the period in question, the human population has increased by a factor of 7.[0] The population of the planet has more than doubled since 1970.[0] More people in cities. And more voices, more disagreements, and more misfortunes to report. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#Past_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#Past_populati...