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It's a double win, because it's not only cheaper, it's also more "like being there". Because unless the battle happens to be commanded by an AI embodied as a fl

by usrusr 5y ago

It's a double win, because it's not only cheaper, it's also more "like being there". Because unless the battle happens to be commanded by an AI embodied as a flock of observation drones, nobody would have that generous wide shot view, not even the highest ranking commanders. I agree with the boring nature of most "superhuman" fight scenes (of both "declared" kind, superheeoes, and the "undeclared" kind, regular mortals who just happen to be over the top for cheap awe effects). But there have also been some recent examples (ca this century) that I found quite impressive, usually characterized by a short violent burst of crazyness and then everybody is dead, heavily inured or routing, and maybe slowly beginning to consider that perhaps they haven't actually lost.

5560675260 5y ago
Wouldn't "being there" also include observers not directly involved in a fight? Like all the people supplying us with mobile phone footage of real life happenings. Usually real life shots are shakey and not that generous, but the kind would feel natural to moviegoers.
anthk 5y ago
With Dragon Ball you saw actual brushes and injuries. Nowdays, with Dragon Ball Super... At least the manga it's still respecting the original artwork.
alickz 5y ago
>But there have also been some recent examples (ca this century) that I found quite impressive, usually characterized by a short violent burst of crazyness and then everybody is dead, heavily inured or routing, and maybe slowly beginning to consider that perhaps they haven't actually lost. I enjoyed the fighting scenes in the animated show _Invincible_ much more than any fight scenes I've seen in a Marvel film for this reason. Explosive and (usually) consequential.
dmitriid 5y ago
> because it's not only cheaper, it's also more "like being there". "Being there" is an excuse Hollywood has used for ages for not training actors properly, not doing any fight choreography etc. Marvel now spends millions of dollars on boring CGI fights because they couldn't be bothered to spend the same (or actually less) money on filming actual fights. Just look at what John Wick did with a 54-57-year old actor and Nobody did with a 57-year old actor for the fraction of the price of most modern action movies.

by usrusr 5y ago

5560675260 5y ago

Wouldn't "being there" also include observers not directly involved in a fight? Like all the people supplying us with mobile phone footage of real life happenings. Usually real life shots are shakey and not that generous, but the kind would feel natural to moviegoers.

anthk 5y ago

With Dragon Ball you saw actual brushes and injuries. Nowdays, with Dragon Ball Super... At least the manga it's still respecting the original artwork.

alickz 5y ago

>But there have also been some recent examples (ca this century) that I found quite impressive, usually characterized by a short violent burst of crazyness and then everybody is dead, heavily inured or routing, and maybe slowly beginning to consider that perhaps they haven't actually lost. I enjoyed the fighting scenes in the animated show _Invincible_ much more than any fight scenes I've seen in a Marvel film for this reason. Explosive and (usually) consequential.

dmitriid 5y ago

> because it's not only cheaper, it's also more "like being there". "Being there" is an excuse Hollywood has used for ages for not training actors properly, not doing any fight choreography etc. Marvel now spends millions of dollars on boring CGI fights because they couldn't be bothered to spend the same (or actually less) money on filming actual fights. Just look at what John Wick did with a 54-57-year old actor and Nobody did with a 57-year old actor for the fraction of the price of most modern action movies.