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Like that number isn't horrendous in and of itself, but let's not forget that many young adults that have had Covid likely gave it to someone vulnerable as well

Like that number isn't horrendous in and of itself, but let's not forget that many young adults that have had Covid likely gave it to someone vulnerable as well. It's not just who dies directly from Covid. It's also the spread of it to vulnerable populations. It boggles the mind that this still has to be repeated. How many 22 year olds coming back from spring break will kill one of their parents or grandparents?

ars 5y ago
That's what the vaccine is for. And if you're really concerned about spring break, then add all these restrictions 2 weeks before spring break.
- ChicagoDave 5y ago
  Do you not understand “vulnerable population”? There are actually people that the vaccines won’t help. They are immunocompromised. They can only be protected by high vaccination rates and zero exposure to Covid.
  - bart_spoon 5y ago
    Yes, but those people will never stop being vulnerable. Covid is never going away, period. Anyone saying otherwise has been living in a fantasy for nearly 2 years at this point. So completely distorting society to ensure zero Covid exposure has not only proven itself to be relatively ineffective, but it would be required to be done forever. The situation will be no different in a year or 5 years than it is from now, so continuing to argue for societal shutdown is completely untenable.
  - ars 5y ago
    So your plan is to harm millions in order to protect tens? People who are immunocompromised have a tough life, but we can't shut down the world for them. COVID is here to stay. Forever. You can't shut the world down forever.
    - ChicagoDave 5y ago
      The temporary financial harm of everyone in exchange for ending the pandemic or ignoring the pandemic, hoping it goes away, but because so many people are unvaccinated, it keeps morphing and costing us billions of dollars anyway. Hmmm....which seems better?
kd913 5y ago
I can understand your opinion to a perspective, but I feel the position has changed dramatically. At this point, vaccines are available. There is almost no feasibility in eliminating COVID at this point in time. It will mutate, and hence we need to be talking about the possibility of 'living with the disease'. As such, how much damage are we doing damaging the education, and critical periods for these youths? If the problem is protecting the parents and grandparents, why not do that, and isolate them rather than permanently damaging the youth.

ars 5y ago

That's what the vaccine is for. And if you're really concerned about spring break, then add all these restrictions 2 weeks before spring break.

ChicagoDave 5y ago
Do you not understand “vulnerable population”? There are actually people that the vaccines won’t help. They are immunocompromised. They can only be protected by high vaccination rates and zero exposure to Covid.
- bart_spoon 5y ago
  Yes, but those people will never stop being vulnerable. Covid is never going away, period. Anyone saying otherwise has been living in a fantasy for nearly 2 years at this point. So completely distorting society to ensure zero Covid exposure has not only proven itself to be relatively ineffective, but it would be required to be done forever. The situation will be no different in a year or 5 years than it is from now, so continuing to argue for societal shutdown is completely untenable.
- ars 5y ago
  So your plan is to harm millions in order to protect tens? People who are immunocompromised have a tough life, but we can't shut down the world for them. COVID is here to stay. Forever. You can't shut the world down forever.
  - ChicagoDave 5y ago
    The temporary financial harm of everyone in exchange for ending the pandemic or ignoring the pandemic, hoping it goes away, but because so many people are unvaccinated, it keeps morphing and costing us billions of dollars anyway. Hmmm....which seems better?

kd913 5y ago

I can understand your opinion to a perspective, but I feel the position has changed dramatically. At this point, vaccines are available. There is almost no feasibility in eliminating COVID at this point in time. It will mutate, and hence we need to be talking about the possibility of 'living with the disease'. As such, how much damage are we doing damaging the education, and critical periods for these youths? If the problem is protecting the parents and grandparents, why not do that, and isolate them rather than permanently damaging the youth.