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I agree a toxic culture is probably driving the great resignation. I don't believe it is lack of money. I do believe and have experienced toxic work relations

I agree a toxic culture is probably driving the great resignation. I don't believe it is lack of money. I do believe and have experienced toxic work relationships and environments. I've had a career as a software engineer -15+ years-, and then shifted to security. Developers reflect their environment and are largely toxic individuals or the object of toxic teams. There is a love/hate relationship with Execs and Tech pros, and the salaries they demand. Execs are looking to cut costs, Tech is looking for career advancement and longevity. Developers are caught between these two rocks. Then the fear of outsourcing for a lower cost workforce. It sucks. The best advice I can give is to enjoy your work and don't get hung up on a $$ track as your measure of success. The $$ will work out in the end, you need to find relationships of like minded folks and support each others careers, boost each others ratings. Provide excellent customer service - the customers being those business owners of your development projects. Look for at least a cost of living increase, ask what needs to happen to get a raise. It's harder than you think. You have to not just produce cheerfully, but provide breakthrough solutions. It's always been a fact in the US that you have to perform the advanced role for at least a year before your title and compensation reflects it. Cheers and good fortune~

noasaservice 5y ago
> I don't believe it is lack of money. We are definitely in a IT bubble. It is DEFINITELY about the money. We have dunkin donuts and plenty other places saying you can make "Up to $20/hr - including tips (but in 1/4 the font size)". Or person is paid $20/hr for the work of 2 humans, and the management says to do these roles too without extra compensation. Or you negotiate for 40h/week average, and management expects 50-60h/week. Or benefits are slashed. Or you get your 3% "raise" which is 1/2 inflation. > The best advice I can give is to enjoy your work and don't get hung up on a $$ track as your measure of success. Really? Ive heard management saying this kind of garbage before. I have better advice: get paid closer to your surplus value's worth. And then when you HAVE capital, you can decide how you want to live your life. And there really is no stability in our system, no matter how pretty things are. We employees/workers have low to no representation in companies. We don't see how the C-suite does stuff, and it's too late when they do. (All of this is primarily US focused, since we take caveat emptor to living and working and everything. It's sickening, but we have to play in this sham system until we can subvert it.)
- magicroot75 5y ago
  Absolutely. Finding a place with a good culture is hard. And even if you do, it's not uncommon for companies with a great culture to struggle financially and then employee a "shake-up" that destroys that culture overnight.
hogrider 5y ago
> It's always been a fact in the US that you have to perform the advanced role for at least a year before your title and compensation reflects it. Yes, but only if you don't manage to find the other job that will bump you in pay and responsibilities instantly. When people start talking about any kind of loyalty to your company I remind them that for getting a promotion first you'd be exploited like this for a year or more.

noasaservice 5y ago

> I don't believe it is lack of money. We are definitely in a IT bubble. It is DEFINITELY about the money. We have dunkin donuts and plenty other places saying you can make "Up to $20/hr - including tips (but in 1/4 the font size)". Or person is paid $20/hr for the work of 2 humans, and the management says to do these roles too without extra compensation. Or you negotiate for 40h/week average, and management expects 50-60h/week. Or benefits are slashed. Or you get your 3% "raise" which is 1/2 inflation. > The best advice I can give is to enjoy your work and don't get hung up on a $$ track as your measure of success. Really? Ive heard management saying this kind of garbage before. I have better advice: get paid closer to your surplus value's worth. And then when you HAVE capital, you can decide how you want to live your life. And there really is no stability in our system, no matter how pretty things are. We employees/workers have low to no representation in companies. We don't see how the C-suite does stuff, and it's too late when they do. (All of this is primarily US focused, since we take caveat emptor to living and working and everything. It's sickening, but we have to play in this sham system until we can subvert it.)

magicroot75 5y ago
Absolutely. Finding a place with a good culture is hard. And even if you do, it's not uncommon for companies with a great culture to struggle financially and then employee a "shake-up" that destroys that culture overnight.

hogrider 5y ago

> It's always been a fact in the US that you have to perform the advanced role for at least a year before your title and compensation reflects it. Yes, but only if you don't manage to find the other job that will bump you in pay and responsibilities instantly. When people start talking about any kind of loyalty to your company I remind them that for getting a promotion first you'd be exploited like this for a year or more.