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In my home town in Oklahoma, the worst offenders are the churches. Huge parking lots which are only used on Sunday.

by jake_morrison 5y ago

Spivak 5y ago
Church parking lots are the perfect example how things fail when your capacity planning only looks at averages. What would your solution be for venues that have spiky attendance? Concert venues, nightlife, sports arenas, seasonal tourism? Because sure you can centralize parking and then make people walk but there’s a reason we have many different tiers of caches.
- softcactus 5y ago
  As someone from Oklahoma, just use grass. Lots of overflow lots already have grass. It's literally a prairie with wildgrass that has deep roots. If continuous high-traffic isn't a concern then grass is a perfect alternative.
xeromal 5y ago
Not sure how your churches work in Oklahoma but I grew up in the south and there was Sunday morning and night church, wednesday church, some kind of Friday prayer group or teen socialization night, a soup kitchen day, and probably others. The entire congregation isn't going to these but I'd wager most churches are actively using their lots throughout the week.
dont__panic 5y ago
In my city, churches actually made a choice that's even worse than that: on the weekends, it seems that there's some kind of deal with the police, and churchgoers just park right in the bike lanes all down my street. It makes my street, which contains two bike lanes, absolute hell to bike down on weekends.
throw0101a 5y ago
> Huge parking lots which are only used on Sunday. For venues that hold 'large events', if they have a capacity of X people then zoning often dictates that they need Y parking spots. See page 24: * https://www.oklahomacounty.org/Portals/0/OKCo%20Zoning%20%282021_04_27%29%20-%20accepted.pdf https://www.oklahomacounty.org/Portals/0/OKCo%20Zoning%20%28...

55 ms·

In my home town in Oklahoma, the worst offenders are the churches. Huge parking lots which are only used on Sunday.

by jake_morrison 5y ago

In my home town in Oklahoma, the worst offenders are the churches. Huge parking lots which are only used on Sunday.

Spivak 5y ago
Church parking lots are the perfect example how things fail when your capacity planning only looks at averages. What would your solution be for venues that have spiky attendance? Concert venues, nightlife, sports arenas, seasonal tourism? Because sure you can centralize parking and then make people walk but there’s a reason we have many different tiers of caches.
- softcactus 5y ago
  As someone from Oklahoma, just use grass. Lots of overflow lots already have grass. It's literally a prairie with wildgrass that has deep roots. If continuous high-traffic isn't a concern then grass is a perfect alternative.
xeromal 5y ago
Not sure how your churches work in Oklahoma but I grew up in the south and there was Sunday morning and night church, wednesday church, some kind of Friday prayer group or teen socialization night, a soup kitchen day, and probably others. The entire congregation isn't going to these but I'd wager most churches are actively using their lots throughout the week.
dont__panic 5y ago
In my city, churches actually made a choice that's even worse than that: on the weekends, it seems that there's some kind of deal with the police, and churchgoers just park right in the bike lanes all down my street. It makes my street, which contains two bike lanes, absolute hell to bike down on weekends.
throw0101a 5y ago
> Huge parking lots which are only used on Sunday. For venues that hold 'large events', if they have a capacity of X people then zoning often dictates that they need Y parking spots. See page 24: * https://www.oklahomacounty.org/Portals/0/OKCo%20Zoning%20%282021_04_27%29%20-%20accepted.pdf https://www.oklahomacounty.org/Portals/0/OKCo%20Zoning%20%28...