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I suggested that data collection should be opt-in since it is (almost) the cause of this issue, and my comment was hidden for "advocacy". https://bugzilla.mozi

by chaz6 5y ago

I suggested that data collection should be opt-in since it is (almost) the cause of this issue, and my comment was hidden for "advocacy". https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c11 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c11

dTal 5y ago
That's very telling, isn't it. After all, who were you advocating for?
- INTPenis 5y ago
  Devil's advocate here but they were perhaps advocating against metrics at a time when Mozilla has a lot of pressure to do right and might need those metrics to perform.
hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
"Advocacy"?! This is crucial information that should help them solving the problem! Switching Firefox Data Collection completely solves the problem and allows users to use HTTP3, but it looks like they prefer us not to use HTTP3 but have Firefox Data Collection turned on instead. I mean, in normal circumstances I'd understand it, but hiding this kind of key information as "advocacy" is unacceptable.
- terom 5y ago
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c19 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c19 current info is that it's not just telemetry that can trigger this HTTP/3 bug, it just happens to be the first/most common service that users' browsers will connect to
rossvor 5y ago
Regardless of the viewpoints here (I lean to agree with you on opt-in), it's an off-topic suggestion on a hot bug report. Keeping noise levels low on these sorts of hot bug threads is already hard, no need to make moderators job harder.
asasa1212 5y ago
Telemetry data snooping is the problem here. It clearly makes FF hang forever, and having it off by default would not have triggered the issue. So data snooping is the issue here.
skinkestek 5y ago
It is standard response from them now I guess. We are only valued community members when there is a fundraising drive going on. The rest of the year we are just annoying nobodies it seems. Try to ask for updates on the Tab bar issue if you want to trigger it again.
jacquesm 5y ago
of course it should be opt-in. It's ridiculous that such a thing would be opt-out.

by chaz6 5y ago

dTal 5y ago

That's very telling, isn't it. After all, who were you advocating for?

INTPenis 5y ago
Devil's advocate here but they were perhaps advocating against metrics at a time when Mozilla has a lot of pressure to do right and might need those metrics to perform.

hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago

"Advocacy"?! This is crucial information that should help them solving the problem! Switching Firefox Data Collection completely solves the problem and allows users to use HTTP3, but it looks like they prefer us not to use HTTP3 but have Firefox Data Collection turned on instead. I mean, in normal circumstances I'd understand it, but hiding this kind of key information as "advocacy" is unacceptable.

terom 5y ago
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c19 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c19 current info is that it's not just telemetry that can trigger this HTTP/3 bug, it just happens to be the first/most common service that users' browsers will connect to

rossvor 5y ago

Regardless of the viewpoints here (I lean to agree with you on opt-in), it's an off-topic suggestion on a hot bug report. Keeping noise levels low on these sorts of hot bug threads is already hard, no need to make moderators job harder.

asasa1212 5y ago

Telemetry data snooping is the problem here. It clearly makes FF hang forever, and having it off by default would not have triggered the issue. So data snooping is the issue here.

skinkestek 5y ago

It is standard response from them now I guess. We are only valued community members when there is a fundraising drive going on. The rest of the year we are just annoying nobodies it seems. Try to ask for updates on the Tab bar issue if you want to trigger it again.

jacquesm 5y ago

of course it should be opt-in. It's ridiculous that such a thing would be opt-out.