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The whole "Quittening" is a little US-centric. The short answer is: "Too many jobs, too few qualified people" We're struggling to hire senior talent, well, sen

The whole "Quittening" is a little US-centric. The short answer is: "Too many jobs, too few qualified people" We're struggling to hire senior talent, well, senior, entry level, anything but apprentice. The thing is: So is everyone else. There are statistic on these things, there aren't anyone to hire, you have to get people to leave other jobs, but then those companies are just shorthanded and you solved nothing. So we hire as many apprentices as we're able to handle and legally have. When their training is done, 4 years from now, the majority of them will receive a job offer. So far we hired all but one of our former apprentices. Engineering isn't the only line of work with this issue. My wife business is in the same situation. Unemployment rate is at 0,7%. The people not employed are all in that situation due to personality issues. The only available people they can hire are those toxic enough that most would prefer not to hire them if ANY other option is available. Other than that, take in as many apprentices as they can handle and ofter them a job in 3,5 years time. This is debated in Denmark ever year, in July, when schools announce who got in to which universities, colleges and so on. Every year: We're missing nurses, engineers, STEM, all the usual. Not once have I hear anyone mention which subjects people need to stop applying for. My personal favorite subject that can be cancelled: SoMe marketing manager. The amount of people applying to those educations are insane and they can't even market themselfs well enough to get a job.

DenisM 5y ago
Can you tell more about this apprentice system? And what legal status does it have in your country?
- mrweasel 5y ago
  It's like carpenters or bricklayers. We hire student who are enrolled in a tradeschool, in our case they're studying "systemadministration/networking" and the job is part of the education. They are actual employees. They are organized by one of the unions, weirdly enough the metal-workers union, but they handle all apprentices, regardless of their field of work. The apprentices are paid a fixed salary, they are allowed to work 37 hours a week, when not in school. We pay their salary while at school. We're allowed to have four per senior employee, to ensure that we can actually help them learn. In return we can more or less dictate what we teach them, so we can provide them with the education we need. They normally get the boring trivial tasks initially, but that's okay because it's new to them and they feel like they're help and doing actual work (which they are). As they progress we give them more and more responsibility, until they, in our case, get to handle customers on their own and do their own projects. It's more or less the same deal with the student my wife has, they're just organized differently, because they're pharmacy workers. On the surface it seems expensive, but it's a good way to hire people and in the end I believe apprentices actually make us more money than they cost. We're not obligated to hire them afterwards, but normally most are interested in staying for at least a few years.
  - DenisM 5y ago
    Thank you for this perspective. I wonder if we have something like this in the US.
avgcorrection 5y ago
“Talent” drives me nuts. Makes it sound like people are talking about applicants to Berklee.

DenisM 5y ago

Can you tell more about this apprentice system? And what legal status does it have in your country?

mrweasel 5y ago
It's like carpenters or bricklayers. We hire student who are enrolled in a tradeschool, in our case they're studying "systemadministration/networking" and the job is part of the education. They are actual employees. They are organized by one of the unions, weirdly enough the metal-workers union, but they handle all apprentices, regardless of their field of work. The apprentices are paid a fixed salary, they are allowed to work 37 hours a week, when not in school. We pay their salary while at school. We're allowed to have four per senior employee, to ensure that we can actually help them learn. In return we can more or less dictate what we teach them, so we can provide them with the education we need. They normally get the boring trivial tasks initially, but that's okay because it's new to them and they feel like they're help and doing actual work (which they are). As they progress we give them more and more responsibility, until they, in our case, get to handle customers on their own and do their own projects. It's more or less the same deal with the student my wife has, they're just organized differently, because they're pharmacy workers. On the surface it seems expensive, but it's a good way to hire people and in the end I believe apprentices actually make us more money than they cost. We're not obligated to hire them afterwards, but normally most are interested in staying for at least a few years.
- DenisM 5y ago
  Thank you for this perspective. I wonder if we have something like this in the US.

avgcorrection 5y ago

“Talent” drives me nuts. Makes it sound like people are talking about applicants to Berklee.