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I'm sure there's absolutely NOTHING in the deep ocean that would mind the increase in acidity, after all, I've never seen anything down there, or looked very ca

by dusted 5y ago

I'm sure there's absolutely NOTHING in the deep ocean that would mind the increase in acidity, after all, I've never seen anything down there, or looked very carefully.

PostOnce 5y ago
If I have to choose between saving deep ocean tube worms (or whatever) and saving mankind... I'm not picking the tube worms.
- Tepix 5y ago
  If the ocean dies, so does mankind.
- dusted 5y ago
  More nuclear power. Also, carbon.. I dunno exactly, but I feel confident that if you take a bunch of it and apply enough pressure, you get coal.. If you press harder it might even be useful for something besides burning and making a mess.. At least the density of diamond is higher than co2, I don't know how much room 34.81 billion metric tons of diamond takes up, but, maybe if we used if for buildings, bridges, pavement it'd not be too much of a hassle, I mean, we're using 4.4 billion tons of cement per year, so that'd leave us with only 30.81 billion tons of unused diamond.. but not having to produce the cement in the first place would offset it a bit.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Mankind will be fine. Only civilization will collapse, and thousands of species be driven to extinction. The oceans are big and old and can absorb much more than the surface. The Lovecraftian Deep Old Ones might be unamused by the incursion, but might even welcome it. A little extra acidity along with an influx of oxygen might actually be popular. Doing nothing is not doing nothing: the natural world near the surface is taking the brunt of carbonic acid contamination. For every creature at the bottom that experiences a change, a million at the top suffer today.
pvaldes 5y ago
Cold water reefs would be destroyed, for example, and those are essential for fisheries in surface. They stand in the middle of the path.
- Tepix 5y ago
  They are talking about pumping the CO2 to 3000m. Cold water reefs are in somewhat shallower waters (39-1000+m).
culopatin 5y ago
There is a lot we don’t know about the deep ocean that could potentially be useful for our current problems. I’m sure there are billions of species of bacteria down there that survive in a much different environment than the surface that could potentially be used to fix things up here. My girlfriend is studying bacteria that live off of sulfur instead of oxygen. Imagine one that can be replicated super fast to eat plastic and put out O2. Who knows. We’ll never know if we kill them.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Hint: this won't kill them. Everything still eating sulfur and whatever has survived overwhelmingly greater shocks, over the eons.
stubish 5y ago
'up to 150 GtC from the atmosphere by 2100 without excessive increase of local pH', so trying to avoid the increase in acidity. That is 10% of the claimed total capacity.

by dusted 5y ago

I'm sure there's absolutely NOTHING in the deep ocean that would mind the increase in acidity, after all, I've never seen anything down there, or looked very carefully.

PostOnce 5y ago

If I have to choose between saving deep ocean tube worms (or whatever) and saving mankind... I'm not picking the tube worms.

Tepix 5y ago
If the ocean dies, so does mankind.
dusted 5y ago
More nuclear power. Also, carbon.. I dunno exactly, but I feel confident that if you take a bunch of it and apply enough pressure, you get coal.. If you press harder it might even be useful for something besides burning and making a mess.. At least the density of diamond is higher than co2, I don't know how much room 34.81 billion metric tons of diamond takes up, but, maybe if we used if for buildings, bridges, pavement it'd not be too much of a hassle, I mean, we're using 4.4 billion tons of cement per year, so that'd leave us with only 30.81 billion tons of unused diamond.. but not having to produce the cement in the first place would offset it a bit.
ncmncm 5y ago
Mankind will be fine. Only civilization will collapse, and thousands of species be driven to extinction. The oceans are big and old and can absorb much more than the surface. The Lovecraftian Deep Old Ones might be unamused by the incursion, but might even welcome it. A little extra acidity along with an influx of oxygen might actually be popular. Doing nothing is not doing nothing: the natural world near the surface is taking the brunt of carbonic acid contamination. For every creature at the bottom that experiences a change, a million at the top suffer today.

pvaldes 5y ago

Cold water reefs would be destroyed, for example, and those are essential for fisheries in surface. They stand in the middle of the path.

Tepix 5y ago
They are talking about pumping the CO2 to 3000m. Cold water reefs are in somewhat shallower waters (39-1000+m).

culopatin 5y ago

There is a lot we don’t know about the deep ocean that could potentially be useful for our current problems. I’m sure there are billions of species of bacteria down there that survive in a much different environment than the surface that could potentially be used to fix things up here. My girlfriend is studying bacteria that live off of sulfur instead of oxygen. Imagine one that can be replicated super fast to eat plastic and put out O2. Who knows. We’ll never know if we kill them.

ncmncm 5y ago
Hint: this won't kill them. Everything still eating sulfur and whatever has survived overwhelmingly greater shocks, over the eons.

stubish 5y ago

'up to 150 GtC from the atmosphere by 2100 without excessive increase of local pH', so trying to avoid the increase in acidity. That is 10% of the claimed total capacity.