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Unvaccinated nurses with natural immunity can't stay on the job but infected nurses can. This is peak idiocy.

skocznymroczny 5y ago
If the point is to stop the spread of virus, it is. But if the point is to force everyone to get vaccinated (why?), it is not.
- Ekaros 5y ago
  Which is why from medical and ethical standpoint the vaccine passports that are oh so popular never made any sense. Vaccinated people can and do spread it. Even among each other. So what is the point? For proper control the test passport would have been the clear solution. But I take there are political opinions behind this...
  - pipodeclown 5y ago
    The point is that vaccinated people have lower infection rates and if they do catch, they spread it less. That is the justification for having less restrictions on vaccinated people.
    - Ekaros 5y ago
      Still non-zero infection rates. Also it is clear that they have lead to increase spreading as people take less precautions and do more risky behaviour like drugs...
      - Terretta 5y ago
        Non zero people die with seatbelts too. Remember when we were told seatbelts would make people drive like lunatics so we shouldn't legally require them? (I do.)
Stevvo 5y ago
It's not a real problem because of the millions of nurses nationwide you can count on one hand the number with natural immunity who can't stay on the job because they are unvaccinated. Also, immunity is not binary. Healthcare professionals by definition work with the most vulnerable and should be getting all the immunity they can get. That's common sense, not peak idiocy.
- dwelch 5y ago
  I can count on two hands the number of nurses at my one hospital who were fired (or forced to resign, or whatever corporate language you’d like to put on it) last year because they refused to get vaccinated and had recently had COVID within the past few months.
  - Terretta 5y ago
    And you'd need a crowd of hands to count those nurses who were not vaccinated and subsequently died from COVID not with COVID under the care of their former colleagues. That scenario removed far more caregivers from production than your scenario, so what's your point?
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  In New York there’s more than 30000: https://www.foxnews.com/us/terminated-health-care-workers-joe-biden-vaccine-mandates-national-guard https://www.foxnews.com/us/terminated-health-care-workers-jo... Yet supposedly in California there’s less than 5. I’m unconvinced.
muzika 5y ago
Wait until those who only had a one booster (and hence are no longer “fully vaccinated”) get fired next year.

If the point is to stop the spread of virus, it is. But if the point is to force everyone to get vaccinated (why?), it is not.

Ekaros 5y ago
Which is why from medical and ethical standpoint the vaccine passports that are oh so popular never made any sense. Vaccinated people can and do spread it. Even among each other. So what is the point? For proper control the test passport would have been the clear solution. But I take there are political opinions behind this...
- pipodeclown 5y ago
  The point is that vaccinated people have lower infection rates and if they do catch, they spread it less. That is the justification for having less restrictions on vaccinated people.
  - Ekaros 5y ago
    Still non-zero infection rates. Also it is clear that they have lead to increase spreading as people take less precautions and do more risky behaviour like drugs...
    - Terretta 5y ago
      Non zero people die with seatbelts too. Remember when we were told seatbelts would make people drive like lunatics so we shouldn't legally require them? (I do.)

Stevvo 5y ago

It's not a real problem because of the millions of nurses nationwide you can count on one hand the number with natural immunity who can't stay on the job because they are unvaccinated. Also, immunity is not binary. Healthcare professionals by definition work with the most vulnerable and should be getting all the immunity they can get. That's common sense, not peak idiocy.

dwelch 5y ago
I can count on two hands the number of nurses at my one hospital who were fired (or forced to resign, or whatever corporate language you’d like to put on it) last year because they refused to get vaccinated and had recently had COVID within the past few months.
- Terretta 5y ago
  And you'd need a crowd of hands to count those nurses who were not vaccinated and subsequently died from COVID not with COVID under the care of their former colleagues. That scenario removed far more caregivers from production than your scenario, so what's your point?
tinus_hn 5y ago
In New York there’s more than 30000: https://www.foxnews.com/us/terminated-health-care-workers-joe-biden-vaccine-mandates-national-guard https://www.foxnews.com/us/terminated-health-care-workers-jo... Yet supposedly in California there’s less than 5. I’m unconvinced.

muzika 5y ago

Wait until those who only had a one booster (and hence are no longer “fully vaccinated”) get fired next year.