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>Do you see the contradiction here? I don't think bibliometrics are useful for measuring utility. that's not a contradiction that's like just your opinion man.

>Do you see the contradiction here? I don't think bibliometrics are useful for measuring utility. that's not a contradiction that's like just your opinion man. it's also the no true scotsman fallacy on your part. >we should massively >NSF grants should be redirected to a GRFP-like funding model >NSF should put a hard upper bound cool when you replace panchanathan you can institute all of the policies and only then will academia be more egalitarian and possibly more useful to society as a whole. until then you're just playing bait and switch wrt the current state of things.

lapsedacademic 5y ago
> that's not a contradiction that's like just your opinion man. it's also the no true scotsman fallacy on your part. I don't follow. Useless work gets cited all the time. I'm not suggesting that there should be less accountability to be useful to society. I'm just pointing out that bibliometrics is a particularly bad way of measuring utility. > until then you're just playing bait and switch wrt the current state of things. Again, I don't follow. How am I playing bait and switch? I don't work in academia. > replace panchanathan Fortunately, that's not necessary. You don't put pressure on agencies like NSF by joining the civil service. Even high-ranking civil servants are... well, servants. You put pressure on federal agencies by having tons of money and free time. Which many lapsed academics in CS have in spades ;-)