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House mice and rodents that have lived in buildings for their entire lives will have a slim chance of surviving outdoors. If possible, relocate mice to an outbu

by adolph 5y ago

House mice and rodents that have lived in buildings for their entire lives will have a slim chance of surviving outdoors. If possible, relocate mice to an outbuilding like a shed or garage. https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/what-do-about-wild-mice https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/what-do-about-wild-m...

b112 5y ago
Mice carry disease, and the hantavirus is extremely deadly. I know, I've had it. >50% fatality by some counts. As mice in my area have it, I cannot in good conscience do anything but kill mice I catch. The risks are too high.
- nate_meurer 5y ago
  FWIW, hantavirus is spread via mouse urine, not by the mice themselves, so the most important way to avoid it is to sanitize places where mice have peed.
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  - cableshaft 5y ago
    Also droppings, apparently. You're not supposed to vaccuum because it could stir up dust from the droppings. I've just been reading up on it from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/pdf/HantavirusBrochure-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/pdf/HantavirusBrochure-508.pd...
- cableshaft 5y ago
  Oh man, I looked up hantavirus, scary stuff. Sorry you had to go through that. Thankfully there's only been 4 known cases in my state since at least as far back as 1996, but still. Now I'm starting to rethink the live traps. Also I'm going to be extra careful in the basement, and might throw out more stuff than I was going to before. Great. Also not going to do what I was planning to do and clean everything up slowly over weeks, even while recently capturing the mice.
  - b112 5y ago
    For the last 20 hours or so, during the worst, I stayed awake and coughed up golfball sized chunks of phlegm every 15 minutes or so. Apparently, many deaths occur by people literally drowning in their own phlegm. Had I not stayed awake, had I gone to sleep, I suspect it would have built up and I'd have woken choking, without time to cough up the accumulation before death. I had a large set of lungs, and good stamina fortunately. One of my biggest fears is COVID (which is in mice now) mixing genes with this.

by adolph 5y ago

b112 5y ago

Mice carry disease, and the hantavirus is extremely deadly. I know, I've had it. >50% fatality by some counts. As mice in my area have it, I cannot in good conscience do anything but kill mice I catch. The risks are too high.

nate_meurer 5y ago
FWIW, hantavirus is spread via mouse urine, not by the mice themselves, so the most important way to avoid it is to sanitize places where mice have peed.
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- cableshaft 5y ago
  Also droppings, apparently. You're not supposed to vaccuum because it could stir up dust from the droppings. I've just been reading up on it from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/pdf/HantavirusBrochure-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/pdf/HantavirusBrochure-508.pd...
cableshaft 5y ago
Oh man, I looked up hantavirus, scary stuff. Sorry you had to go through that. Thankfully there's only been 4 known cases in my state since at least as far back as 1996, but still. Now I'm starting to rethink the live traps. Also I'm going to be extra careful in the basement, and might throw out more stuff than I was going to before. Great. Also not going to do what I was planning to do and clean everything up slowly over weeks, even while recently capturing the mice.
- b112 5y ago
  For the last 20 hours or so, during the worst, I stayed awake and coughed up golfball sized chunks of phlegm every 15 minutes or so. Apparently, many deaths occur by people literally drowning in their own phlegm. Had I not stayed awake, had I gone to sleep, I suspect it would have built up and I'd have woken choking, without time to cough up the accumulation before death. I had a large set of lungs, and good stamina fortunately. One of my biggest fears is COVID (which is in mice now) mixing genes with this.