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I certainly have. We literally LOST a place to buy groceries, as a good part of a town just burnt to the ground after (it seems to be coming to light[0]), a lo

I certainly have. We literally LOST a place to buy groceries, as a good part of a town just burnt to the ground after (it seems to be coming to light[0]), a local cult decided to burn a railroad tie and left it smoldering while 100mph+ winds were being recorded. My King Soopers closed for renovations because of a domestic terrorist shot and killed a few people last year[1], And today, workers at King Soopers are starting their strike (which I support!). Given I also live in a unique enough geographic area where the land west of me for a few hundred miles includes mostly mountains, no groceries stores exist there - so the stores that are left are getting (to put lightly) hammered. And also Covid, shipping logistical problems, shortages with delivery drivers - pile it on. Affording to eat is getting more and more difficult. [0] I want to make clear that these are allegations, and no arrests have been made, but it's not looking great for the cult. https://kdvr.com/news/local/twelve-tribes-property-history-of-controlled-burns/ https://kdvr.com/news/local/twelve-tribes-property-history-o... [1] https://kdvr.com/news/boulder-grocery-store-shooting/records-king-soopers-shooter-had-look-of-pure-anger-during-2017-cold-cock-incident/ https://kdvr.com/news/boulder-grocery-store-shooting/records... [2] https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/workers-nearly-80-krogers-king-soopers-go-strike-talks-stall-2022-01-12/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/workers-nearly-8...

jimkleiber 5y ago
I used to live in that area, right near that King Soopers—I hadn't heard about the cause of that fire, thank you for pointing out the investigation into it. Regarding stores, this may seem a bit out of touch, as I assume their prices are probably more expensive and I also don't know what their stock is like, but a friend of mine recently opened a new (small) grocery store[0] downtown[1]. I'm no longer in the area so I've never been there, but perhaps they will have some better in stock or better in price than some other options. Anyway, just wanted to pass along in case it may help you. [0]: https://nudefoodsmarket.com/ https://nudefoodsmarket.com/ [1]: https://g.page/nudefoodsmarket https://g.page/nudefoodsmarket
- justinator 5y ago
  Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out - doesn't hurt to wander by and say hello! Want to stress that the fire investigation is ongoing, but there's a lot of evidence pointing the start of the fire being on the Twelve Tribe's property. But I don't want things to become a witch hunt.
  - jimkleiber 5y ago
    Oh for sure! > But I don't want things to become a witch hunt. And i appreciate the qualification on this...I'll just try to follow it more closely than I had been before.
Melting_Harps 5y ago
> Affording to eat is getting more and more difficult. Boulder was never exactly a cheap place to eat, but you do have other choices: several Whole Foods, Safeways Lucky's and a Trader Joe's etc... I'm told Alfalfas went under during covid. Also, the Farmer's Markets Downtown when in season. Personally speaking, food costs have been artificially suppressed for far too long in the US; it has led to a situation in which food waste is abhorrently common. If this is what creates a paradigm shift, then so be it. Moreover, Boulder's community garden space is always an option if you can get in--right now you'd be limited on options with anything other than brassicas outside of a greenhouse. This is a much needed reset for Boulder in my opinion. It should live up to the values it supposedly promotes. Sidenote: I used to shop at that King Soopers in Table Mesa when visiting, too. Scary stuff... And that cult owns the Yellow Deli on Pearl street mall, right?
- porknubbins 5y ago
  What do you mean by food prices have been artificially surpressed in the US? Most food waste I am aware of is to do with stores throwing out almost expired products, which bothers me but wouldn’t be helped by making things more expensive.
- justinator 5y ago
  It's a squeeze - and I'm getting pretty close to making me feel bad for myself. But conventional grocery stores themselves are getting pretty expensive for very normal things. A Whole Foods is not a sustainable place to shop for me. I do live within spitting distance of the currently closed Kings Soopers, so that convenience is gone - as a cyclist, there's just so much cargo I can haul at one time so having a store close is a nicety. Safeway relinquished their ownership of Lucky's to the original owners! https://www.dailycamera.com/2021/06/09/lolitas-market-and-deli-in-boulder-sold-to-owners-of-luckys-market/ https://www.dailycamera.com/2021/06/09/lolitas-market-and-de... The Yellow Deli is indeed owned by the Twelve Tribes. It's currently closed.

jimkleiber 5y ago

I used to live in that area, right near that King Soopers—I hadn't heard about the cause of that fire, thank you for pointing out the investigation into it. Regarding stores, this may seem a bit out of touch, as I assume their prices are probably more expensive and I also don't know what their stock is like, but a friend of mine recently opened a new (small) grocery store[0] downtown[1]. I'm no longer in the area so I've never been there, but perhaps they will have some better in stock or better in price than some other options. Anyway, just wanted to pass along in case it may help you. [0]: https://nudefoodsmarket.com/ https://nudefoodsmarket.com/ [1]: https://g.page/nudefoodsmarket https://g.page/nudefoodsmarket

justinator 5y ago
Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out - doesn't hurt to wander by and say hello! Want to stress that the fire investigation is ongoing, but there's a lot of evidence pointing the start of the fire being on the Twelve Tribe's property. But I don't want things to become a witch hunt.
- jimkleiber 5y ago
  Oh for sure! > But I don't want things to become a witch hunt. And i appreciate the qualification on this...I'll just try to follow it more closely than I had been before.

Melting_Harps 5y ago

> Affording to eat is getting more and more difficult. Boulder was never exactly a cheap place to eat, but you do have other choices: several Whole Foods, Safeways Lucky's and a Trader Joe's etc... I'm told Alfalfas went under during covid. Also, the Farmer's Markets Downtown when in season. Personally speaking, food costs have been artificially suppressed for far too long in the US; it has led to a situation in which food waste is abhorrently common. If this is what creates a paradigm shift, then so be it. Moreover, Boulder's community garden space is always an option if you can get in--right now you'd be limited on options with anything other than brassicas outside of a greenhouse. This is a much needed reset for Boulder in my opinion. It should live up to the values it supposedly promotes. Sidenote: I used to shop at that King Soopers in Table Mesa when visiting, too. Scary stuff... And that cult owns the Yellow Deli on Pearl street mall, right?

porknubbins 5y ago
What do you mean by food prices have been artificially surpressed in the US? Most food waste I am aware of is to do with stores throwing out almost expired products, which bothers me but wouldn’t be helped by making things more expensive.
justinator 5y ago
It's a squeeze - and I'm getting pretty close to making me feel bad for myself. But conventional grocery stores themselves are getting pretty expensive for very normal things. A Whole Foods is not a sustainable place to shop for me. I do live within spitting distance of the currently closed Kings Soopers, so that convenience is gone - as a cyclist, there's just so much cargo I can haul at one time so having a store close is a nicety. Safeway relinquished their ownership of Lucky's to the original owners! https://www.dailycamera.com/2021/06/09/lolitas-market-and-deli-in-boulder-sold-to-owners-of-luckys-market/ https://www.dailycamera.com/2021/06/09/lolitas-market-and-de... The Yellow Deli is indeed owned by the Twelve Tribes. It's currently closed.