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I love these headlines that breathlessly assert "Scientists and Doctors" are demanding these changes, or 1000 Scientists have signed a letter saying X, or thing

I love these headlines that breathlessly assert "Scientists and Doctors" are demanding these changes, or 1000 Scientists have signed a letter saying X, or things along these lines. There are a lot of scientists and doctors in the world, and I'm sure you could find thousands that support just about any position. In fact, the "disinfo" in question here is being pushed by a doctor! But you won't see that in the headline. At the end of the day Rogan's power has pissed a lot of people off, and they are desperate to find something, anything, that sticks to him. But it's so blatantly obvious that the end result is nothing but further loss of media credibility.

kranke155 5y ago
I’ve seen so much criticism of Robert Malone, on his resume, yet no one has gone point by point through his Rogan interview on the data. Why not? Tbh the data they talked about sounded solid, they were clearly talking about real papers and data, and Malone didn’t seem like he was BSing (although I think “mass formation psychosis” is insane and neither Malone nor Rogan should be talking about stupid shit like that). But on the vaccine, was there a lot of bad data there? If there was, where’s the takedown?
- cplusplusfellow 5y ago
  I’ve seen firsthand numerous people walking around 60 meters from anyone wearing tightly fitting N95s and face shields. I’ve seen several instances firsthand, not just on Reddit, of people putting surgical masks on their car AC vents. Pardon me if I detect a mass psychosis for an illness that almost assuredly will be troublesome, but overall less of a discomfort than draconian lockdown and so forth. And overall will (statistically) kill almost no one who contracts it. Yes, cue the “but 900,000 people”, and I’ll cue the litany of unforeseen consequences that will reduce life expectancy even further. But I’m pretty sure there is some mass psychology applied to our response to covid, and it’s generally overblown when we involve mass psychology. Just ask Charles Mackay.
  - kranke155 5y ago
    What you call mass psychosis is just poor information and misinformation filtering through the population, and it’s always been commonplace. Dumb people have always existed, and the vast majority of individuals know very little about anything outside their own niche of expertise (if they have one). Under this logic you could accuse anyone of a disparate political view (ie anarchism) of mass psychosis
webmaven 5y ago
You may find "Project Steve" amusing: https://ncse.ngo/project-steve https://ncse.ngo/project-steve

kranke155 5y ago

I’ve seen so much criticism of Robert Malone, on his resume, yet no one has gone point by point through his Rogan interview on the data. Why not? Tbh the data they talked about sounded solid, they were clearly talking about real papers and data, and Malone didn’t seem like he was BSing (although I think “mass formation psychosis” is insane and neither Malone nor Rogan should be talking about stupid shit like that). But on the vaccine, was there a lot of bad data there? If there was, where’s the takedown?

cplusplusfellow 5y ago
I’ve seen firsthand numerous people walking around 60 meters from anyone wearing tightly fitting N95s and face shields. I’ve seen several instances firsthand, not just on Reddit, of people putting surgical masks on their car AC vents. Pardon me if I detect a mass psychosis for an illness that almost assuredly will be troublesome, but overall less of a discomfort than draconian lockdown and so forth. And overall will (statistically) kill almost no one who contracts it. Yes, cue the “but 900,000 people”, and I’ll cue the litany of unforeseen consequences that will reduce life expectancy even further. But I’m pretty sure there is some mass psychology applied to our response to covid, and it’s generally overblown when we involve mass psychology. Just ask Charles Mackay.
- kranke155 5y ago
  What you call mass psychosis is just poor information and misinformation filtering through the population, and it’s always been commonplace. Dumb people have always existed, and the vast majority of individuals know very little about anything outside their own niche of expertise (if they have one). Under this logic you could accuse anyone of a disparate political view (ie anarchism) of mass psychosis

webmaven 5y ago

You may find "Project Steve" amusing: https://ncse.ngo/project-steve https://ncse.ngo/project-steve