Seems these days you're getting a good deal if you pay MSRP for a new car *. You're getting a fantastic deal if you pay anything less, and it's not uncommon to

Seems these days you're getting a good deal if you pay MSRP for a new car *. You're getting a fantastic deal if you pay anything less, and it's not uncommon to be paying some kind of markup. I wonder if that's the new normal, or if haggling will make a comeback? * excluding some undesirable makes/models that would have sold poorly without huge incentives pre-pandemic anyways.