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Is this anarchism? That being naturally emergent formal processes for things which would normally be handled by the government/legal system.
by null0pointer 5y ago
Is this anarchism? That being naturally emergent formal processes for things which would normally be handled by the government/legal system.
- _0ffh 5y agoYes, it's the free market taking over and providing a service that is in demand, in this case arbitration.
- NikolaeVarius 5y agoNo. There would need to be many more meetings and countless committees from groups of random people who all acclaim to hold some sort of power.
- __blockcipher__ 5y ago> There would need to be many more meetings and countless committees from groups of random people who all acclaim to hold some sort of power. That's a description of our statist status quo :)
- catillac 5y agoI think that’s the joke
- notdemo88 5y ago
- goodluckchuck 5y agoYeah, one might say the anarchists are forming a government.
- jokethrowaway 5y agoI wouldn't say so. This is all opt-in, they're not forcing anyone. This is just a private dispute resolution system, not too dissimilar from what can be offered by private companies on clearnet (think eBay).
- RobertoG 5y agoMaybe, but how do you distinguish it from the natural emergence of a government and legal system?
- mhitza 5y agoBy it being opt-in.
- Retric 5y agoCloser to a gang style parallel government structure. The penalties are backed up by banishment from the group rather than violence.
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- csee 5y agoI don't think it's naturally emergent. It's just another case of a centralized entity making some rules people need to follow or else they get banned. It's not too dissimilar from what would happen on eBay if someone complains about a seller.
- slibhb 5y agoWhat if centralized authories are naturally emergent because individuals demand them?
- csee 5y agoI'm happy to call it naturally emergent as long as we also call Amazon and eBay's policies naturally emergent, but doing that would be rather vacuous.
- mediocregopher 5y agoTurns out, all of existence is naturally emergent.
- slibhb 5y agomaybe we could avoid that issue by saying that some sort of minimal central authority is naturally emergent
- ryanSrich 5y agoDoesn’t anarchism require no hierarchies? A court system is a hierarchy. So no. This isn’t anarchism.
- Miner49er 5y agoNo, it requires no unjust or involuntary hierarchies. This is all voluntary, as far as I can tell.
- paxys 5y agoIt ceases to be anarchism the moment it becomes involuntary. Otherwise it's just another system of authority.
- tshaddox 5y agoIsn’t any system of governance in a given region (geographic, or virtual) involuntary? Unless you just mean “you can leave if you don’t like it,” but that’s true for all systems of governance.
- notch656a 5y agoYes, that is why many anarchists consider government a coercive system and seek alternatives to that coercion. Of course, coercion can't be eliminated, but we can acknowledge the right of legitimate self defense against that coercion.
- joshgrib 5y agoNot an expert on the topic, but my understanding is that anarchy rejects governance in general - there wouldn't be any "elevated decision-making body". It's not as much "you can leave if you don't like it" as it's "if you're here then you can change things". I'm not prepared to defend this but that's the view - if you have a system of governance it isn't anarchy so if the argument is "all systems of governance are at least partially involuntary" then that may be true but doesn't say anything related to anarchy
- tshaddox 5y agoWhen I say "governance" I mean in the broadest sense possible: the ways in which interactions between people are organized. If there's a better term for this I will happily use it!
- int_19h 5y agoAnarchism rejects imposed hierarchy of authority. It does not reject governance in general.
- jorblumesea 5y agoMost anarchist theories revolve around formal power structures, just decentralized ones, but, they are all voluntary. This seems to be involuntary, as being are being "brought" to court.
- monocasa 5y agoThere doesn't seem to be an involuntary component; it's a virtual court so 'brought to court' just seems to mean that proceedings have started. You can simply not show up anymore and sort of self select for banishment (once again, from a purely virtual marketplace, not a physical location). Seems pretty anarchist to me.