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What is your problem with a digital anonymous certificate that it gets non anonymous as soon as you have to proof that it is indeed you that got the vaccination

What is your problem with a digital anonymous certificate that it gets non anonymous as soon as you have to proof that it is indeed you that got the vaccination? You are talking in circles and there is still the WHO vaccination passport.

ls15 5y ago
I was talking about the unprotected URL-type certificates (like Djokovic's certs and my original vax cert), before you moved the goalpost to international travel and called me a liar. > there is still the WHO vaccination passport The WHO passport is not useful either, if it does not contain any proof of vaccination, because it is on another continent during vaccination and you are in lockdown. Also, have you seen someone using them for entering businesses during the last couple of weeks? People are clearly pushed towards an app for displaying a QR code that could as well have been a simple image. Let's not normalize installing state-made apps. I am not consenting. Actually there is a fourth undocumented option, the one that I am using right now: scan the code, create a new qr code with the data and store it on my phone or print it. It is just an image. Works better than the one from the pharmacy, because my QR code is sharper. The app is as useless as the vaccine mandates. However, let's also not act like officials all around the world did not dismiss data privacy without hesitating during the pandemic. Just like before, only more. Did you read about the police in Mainz accessing LucaApp data for investigations? Since it looks like the (always thin) scientific basis for vaccine mandates and G2 is crumbling by the day, I suspect that their proponents will soon look pretty foolish anyway and the rest of us can finally move on to dealing with the pandemic in a sensible way.
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
  Sorry, the failure to not have your vaccination passport with you has nothing to do with laws in the country you are residing in. The same goes for you printing out your certificate if they reject it because it is not an official form of proof this has nothing NOTHING to do with laws. It may inconvenience you but it's your own failing not that of lawmakers or others. The same goes for the tennis players certificate, no one forced him to show it to the world. His lawyers also could have asked to not disclose it in the court documents because it is a health document. At least you came to your senses and admitted to lying about it.
  - ls15 5y ago
    > Sorry, the failure to not have your vaccination passport with you has nothing to do with laws in the country you are residing in. Try to gaslight someone else. There was never an obligation to carry a vaccine passport before the pandemic. > At least you came to your senses and admitted to lying about it. I am sorry, but you seem unwilling to understand. I explained how I was not able to get my status certified without getting my privacy violated, while you seem determined to not believe.
    - YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
      Stop moving the lamppost there was an option and YOU couldn't because you left your vaccine passport at home during a pandemic. If you got your first vaccine outside of your home country, you could have easily gotten a new one in every pharmacy or even on amazon [0]. Just because you didn't doesn't mean the country didn't offer a solution for exactly your problem. This is a dilemma of your own making not of laws and also for a lot of international travels you always needed your vaccine passport. [0] https://www.amazon.de/Impfausweis-Impfpass-Impfbuch-internationale-Bescheinigung/dp/B08Y61BSCR https://www.amazon.de/Impfausweis-Impfpass-Impfbuch-internat...
      - ls15 5y ago
        > Stop moving the lamppost there was an option and YOU couldn't because you left your vaccine passport at home during a pandemic. I am moving the lamppost (this last time) for you and everyone else to figure out that I was wrongly accused by you. You have no idea what you are talking about and you are jumping to conclusions, because apparently you want me to be wrong about this so hard. I left before the pandemic and there was absolutely no requirement to have a vacc pass for my destination at any time. Stamping yellow passes was not even offered at the place of my vaccination. Probably somehow it would have been possible if I had the pass, but that was at least never communicated to me. I called the embassy multiple times and asked how to convert that into a cert that is accepted in the EU. They had no idea at that point. Just like you.
        5y ago

ls15 5y ago

I was talking about the unprotected URL-type certificates (like Djokovic's certs and my original vax cert), before you moved the goalpost to international travel and called me a liar. > there is still the WHO vaccination passport The WHO passport is not useful either, if it does not contain any proof of vaccination, because it is on another continent during vaccination and you are in lockdown. Also, have you seen someone using them for entering businesses during the last couple of weeks? People are clearly pushed towards an app for displaying a QR code that could as well have been a simple image. Let's not normalize installing state-made apps. I am not consenting. Actually there is a fourth undocumented option, the one that I am using right now: scan the code, create a new qr code with the data and store it on my phone or print it. It is just an image. Works better than the one from the pharmacy, because my QR code is sharper. The app is as useless as the vaccine mandates. However, let's also not act like officials all around the world did not dismiss data privacy without hesitating during the pandemic. Just like before, only more. Did you read about the police in Mainz accessing LucaApp data for investigations? Since it looks like the (always thin) scientific basis for vaccine mandates and G2 is crumbling by the day, I suspect that their proponents will soon look pretty foolish anyway and the rest of us can finally move on to dealing with the pandemic in a sensible way.

YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
Sorry, the failure to not have your vaccination passport with you has nothing to do with laws in the country you are residing in. The same goes for you printing out your certificate if they reject it because it is not an official form of proof this has nothing NOTHING to do with laws. It may inconvenience you but it's your own failing not that of lawmakers or others. The same goes for the tennis players certificate, no one forced him to show it to the world. His lawyers also could have asked to not disclose it in the court documents because it is a health document. At least you came to your senses and admitted to lying about it.
- ls15 5y ago
  > Sorry, the failure to not have your vaccination passport with you has nothing to do with laws in the country you are residing in. Try to gaslight someone else. There was never an obligation to carry a vaccine passport before the pandemic. > At least you came to your senses and admitted to lying about it. I am sorry, but you seem unwilling to understand. I explained how I was not able to get my status certified without getting my privacy violated, while you seem determined to not believe.
  - YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
    Stop moving the lamppost there was an option and YOU couldn't because you left your vaccine passport at home during a pandemic. If you got your first vaccine outside of your home country, you could have easily gotten a new one in every pharmacy or even on amazon [0]. Just because you didn't doesn't mean the country didn't offer a solution for exactly your problem. This is a dilemma of your own making not of laws and also for a lot of international travels you always needed your vaccine passport. [0] https://www.amazon.de/Impfausweis-Impfpass-Impfbuch-internationale-Bescheinigung/dp/B08Y61BSCR https://www.amazon.de/Impfausweis-Impfpass-Impfbuch-internat...
    - ls15 5y ago
      > Stop moving the lamppost there was an option and YOU couldn't because you left your vaccine passport at home during a pandemic. I am moving the lamppost (this last time) for you and everyone else to figure out that I was wrongly accused by you. You have no idea what you are talking about and you are jumping to conclusions, because apparently you want me to be wrong about this so hard. I left before the pandemic and there was absolutely no requirement to have a vacc pass for my destination at any time. Stamping yellow passes was not even offered at the place of my vaccination. Probably somehow it would have been possible if I had the pass, but that was at least never communicated to me. I called the embassy multiple times and asked how to convert that into a cert that is accepted in the EU. They had no idea at that point. Just like you.
      - 5y ago