> bored people will give themselves electric shocks That's masochism, not sadism. When I get incensed on the internet it is due to overt display of -isms, and

> bored people will give themselves electric shocks That's masochism, not sadism. When I get incensed on the internet it is due to overt display of -isms, and not a desire to hurt someone (or get hurt), but more of: your attitude and behavior is hurtful to others and here is why. However, trying to change someone's attitude in non-troll way when they are entrenched in their belief system leads to a flame-wars 98% of the time. I'm always hoping for that 2%.