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Anonymous and untracked aren’t the problem. Facebook is where most of “thought, desire and opinion” manipulation occurs. Totally the opposite of anonymous and

Anonymous and untracked aren’t the problem. Facebook is where most of “thought, desire and opinion” manipulation occurs. Totally the opposite of anonymous and untracked. How about Twitter? After these we have our own mainstream media spreading misinformation and running d&c psyops on the citizens. And we also can put a lot of blame on our vaunted universities. How many communist revolutionaries have been produced by radical tenured professors. I’d say most. But you want to blame anonymous and free speech? Rather fascist no? Should we do it like the CCP?

fsociety 5y ago
> Facebook is where most of “thought, desire and opinion” manipulation occurs. Totally the opposite of anonymous and untracked. This matches media sentiment instead of what is happening in the real world. Qanon originated on 4chan and thrived on 8chan. > After these we have our own mainstream media spreading misinformation and running d&c psyops on the citizens. Tons of misinformation originated from /pol/. > And we also can put a lot of blame on our vaunted universities. How many communist revolutionaries have been produced by radical tenured professors. Free thought is valuable. I do not personally agree with communism for a wealth of reasons, but people should be free to entertain these ideas and try to understand them. > But you want to blame anonymous and free speech? Rather fascist no? Should we do it like the CCP? Free speech does not require anonymity. Speaking about the cons of a fully anonymous internet does not make someone fascist. Our only choices are not, fully anonymized internet or CCP. There is a balance that can be hit. Likely, leaning too far to either side will result in consequences which outweigh the benefits. I am not sure where that balance should be placed. Everyone should have the ability to be anonymous or use encryption without backdoors, but this makes people untraceable. Probably the balance is close to what we already have today. I think you misrepresented the original commenter's perspective though.
ya_throw 5y ago
I said "pseudo-anonymous", and by that I meant, there's no way to know which disparate online identities relate to which humans. As a consequence, I personally don't assume that anyone online particularly relates to a human. I would go so far as to now say that, on the largest social scales, anonymous and pseudo-anonymous online communication is causing the biggest problems. This includes scenarios like Facebook friends who you think are people you know and website comment sections with plausible-looking people.
jefurii 5y ago
> And we also can put a lot of blame on our vaunted universities. How many communist revolutionaries have been produced by radical tenured professors. I’d say most. Oh yeah, communist revolutionaries are a big problem in the United States right now. /s Or maybe you're saying "communist" when you really mean "Democrat"? The real problem is Y'all Qaeda and Christian Reconstructionists trying to bring an end to our system of government.

fsociety 5y ago

> Facebook is where most of “thought, desire and opinion” manipulation occurs. Totally the opposite of anonymous and untracked. This matches media sentiment instead of what is happening in the real world. Qanon originated on 4chan and thrived on 8chan. > After these we have our own mainstream media spreading misinformation and running d&c psyops on the citizens. Tons of misinformation originated from /pol/. > And we also can put a lot of blame on our vaunted universities. How many communist revolutionaries have been produced by radical tenured professors. Free thought is valuable. I do not personally agree with communism for a wealth of reasons, but people should be free to entertain these ideas and try to understand them. > But you want to blame anonymous and free speech? Rather fascist no? Should we do it like the CCP? Free speech does not require anonymity. Speaking about the cons of a fully anonymous internet does not make someone fascist. Our only choices are not, fully anonymized internet or CCP. There is a balance that can be hit. Likely, leaning too far to either side will result in consequences which outweigh the benefits. I am not sure where that balance should be placed. Everyone should have the ability to be anonymous or use encryption without backdoors, but this makes people untraceable. Probably the balance is close to what we already have today. I think you misrepresented the original commenter's perspective though.

ya_throw 5y ago

I said "pseudo-anonymous", and by that I meant, there's no way to know which disparate online identities relate to which humans. As a consequence, I personally don't assume that anyone online particularly relates to a human. I would go so far as to now say that, on the largest social scales, anonymous and pseudo-anonymous online communication is causing the biggest problems. This includes scenarios like Facebook friends who you think are people you know and website comment sections with plausible-looking people.

jefurii 5y ago

> And we also can put a lot of blame on our vaunted universities. How many communist revolutionaries have been produced by radical tenured professors. I’d say most. Oh yeah, communist revolutionaries are a big problem in the United States right now. /s Or maybe you're saying "communist" when you really mean "Democrat"? The real problem is Y'all Qaeda and Christian Reconstructionists trying to bring an end to our system of government.