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Money. As soon as a lot of people leave a team or location in Google, Google responds by giving everyone bonuses. When a bunch of people started quitting from

Money. As soon as a lot of people leave a team or location in Google, Google responds by giving everyone bonuses. When a bunch of people started quitting from the Boulder office a few (5?) years back, they offered to send everyone on a trip to Hawaii. Google's Do No Evil has been gone for a long while, but people stick around because they are making so much goddamn money.

paisawalla 5y ago
That's exactly how it should work...? What's the issue, Google is evil because it increased the incentive for employees to stay?
- nosequel 5y ago
  I don't know where you got that from my reply. I was simply answering the question of why people stay at Google if they are evil. I was answering the retention question only.
fallingknife 5y ago
Ok, so unions aren't designed to make companies not be evil. They're designed to increase comp. So since you have stated that Google pays lots of money, what's the point of a union.
- Natfan 5y ago
  Unions are also used to make working conditions safer, fairer and less exploitative. While money is definitely a key part of unions, it isn't the be all and end all.
- brandmeyer 5y ago
  The manifesto for the one union which attempted (is attempting?) to organize at GOOG is explicitly trying to reducing what they perceive to be evil, and aren't trying to increase comp.
pradn 5y ago
I think that trip to Hawaii was a reward trip for one team which had a large presence in Boulder. That sort of thing seems to be pretty clearly in the rear-view mirror.
oversocialized 5y ago
Yes big tech employees are equivalent to the wall street bankers in the 80s. Sell their souls for money. They have no room to cry about morals, they know the deal.
Gunax 5y ago
In my experience google pays a bit undermarket and relies on both it's reputation for being a bit cushy (as far as private employers go) and having higher prestige than others.

paisawalla 5y ago

That's exactly how it should work...? What's the issue, Google is evil because it increased the incentive for employees to stay?

nosequel 5y ago
I don't know where you got that from my reply. I was simply answering the question of why people stay at Google if they are evil. I was answering the retention question only.

fallingknife 5y ago

Ok, so unions aren't designed to make companies not be evil. They're designed to increase comp. So since you have stated that Google pays lots of money, what's the point of a union.

Natfan 5y ago
Unions are also used to make working conditions safer, fairer and less exploitative. While money is definitely a key part of unions, it isn't the be all and end all.
brandmeyer 5y ago
The manifesto for the one union which attempted (is attempting?) to organize at GOOG is explicitly trying to reducing what they perceive to be evil, and aren't trying to increase comp.

pradn 5y ago

I think that trip to Hawaii was a reward trip for one team which had a large presence in Boulder. That sort of thing seems to be pretty clearly in the rear-view mirror.

oversocialized 5y ago

Yes big tech employees are equivalent to the wall street bankers in the 80s. Sell their souls for money. They have no room to cry about morals, they know the deal.

Gunax 5y ago

In my experience google pays a bit undermarket and relies on both it's reputation for being a bit cushy (as far as private employers go) and having higher prestige than others.