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I had Omicron and it was easier than the common cold for me. It's over for me until we get the next variant. I honestly feel bad for our government health offic

I had Omicron and it was easier than the common cold for me. It's over for me until we get the next variant. I honestly feel bad for our government health officials. They failed. I think "science" is going to take a little bit of a loss, unfortunately.

acdha 5y ago
Are you vaccinated?
- fasteddie31003 5y ago
  Yes with J&J
  - acdha 5y ago
    I think that's probably the key part: the vaccination discussion has generally conflated two parts — neutralizing antibodies are what help you avoid getting sick at all but those wane over time, whereas the T cell response which helps you quickly fight off an infection lasts far longer. That has been very poorly communicated because a lot of the public health people have been focused on containing spread and T cells do not keep you from being contagious but that's really what we should be communicating: get vaccinated and this becomes a lot more similar to influenza.
    - wnoise 5y ago
      Well, T cells help a bit because they generally lessen the time for which you are contagious.
      - acdha 5y ago
        Definitely - they’re just not enough to act as a wall for something this contagious.
s5300 5y ago
Could you pleeease go tell all of the people that have overflowed the ICUs of the nations hospitals that they’re overreacting & should just go home with their common cold symptoms. Because there’s currently like 2500+ national guard members deployed to hospitals in my state alone, all elective procedures are cancelled in the major hospitals of multiple states (anything that won’t literally kill you in 3 days is elective, even end stage cancer surgeries), other types of appointments are backed up for months, and quite frankly - for the appointments I and acquaintances have had - providers are burnt the fuck out from two years of this. Like, seriously. When thousands of national guard members have to be routed to civilian hospitals to keep them running - I don’t think “science” is taking a loss. It said this was going to happen, all of you “it’s just the common cold” people made everybody rage against science and not care, and now nobody can get meaningful healthcare because the person the nurses & attendings are referring to as “the walking dead” just have to be kept alive & filling an ICU bed for 3+ weeks stuffed with a ventilator they’re never going to have removed until they’re dead.
- fasteddie31003 5y ago
  I said it's over for me. For my elderly parents or unhealthy people, it's not over.
  - s5300 5y ago
    What do you mean by unhealthy? I have a friend, perfectly healthy, who was forced into crashing on their bike during commute in order to not get wrecked by a car. He fell & broke a few ribs & wrist, was not able to be seen for 28 hours in a major city. He’s still waiting on actual treatment (surgeries) & could/likely will have long lasting damaging from the delay. Perhaps it’s over except for our entire healthcare system has completely collapsed in the sense that it’s genuinely non-functional, except for keeping wave after wave of people, who workers already know are not leaving the hospital alive, in a bed for a few weeks. Perhaps I’m a bit angry, but I think it’s not at all considerate of your fellow citizens to say things like this - presuming you’re in the US, that is.
    - 5y ago

acdha 5y ago

Are you vaccinated?

fasteddie31003 5y ago
Yes with J&J
- acdha 5y ago
  I think that's probably the key part: the vaccination discussion has generally conflated two parts — neutralizing antibodies are what help you avoid getting sick at all but those wane over time, whereas the T cell response which helps you quickly fight off an infection lasts far longer. That has been very poorly communicated because a lot of the public health people have been focused on containing spread and T cells do not keep you from being contagious but that's really what we should be communicating: get vaccinated and this becomes a lot more similar to influenza.
  - wnoise 5y ago
    Well, T cells help a bit because they generally lessen the time for which you are contagious.
    - acdha 5y ago
      Definitely - they’re just not enough to act as a wall for something this contagious.

s5300 5y ago

Could you pleeease go tell all of the people that have overflowed the ICUs of the nations hospitals that they’re overreacting & should just go home with their common cold symptoms. Because there’s currently like 2500+ national guard members deployed to hospitals in my state alone, all elective procedures are cancelled in the major hospitals of multiple states (anything that won’t literally kill you in 3 days is elective, even end stage cancer surgeries), other types of appointments are backed up for months, and quite frankly - for the appointments I and acquaintances have had - providers are burnt the fuck out from two years of this. Like, seriously. When thousands of national guard members have to be routed to civilian hospitals to keep them running - I don’t think “science” is taking a loss. It said this was going to happen, all of you “it’s just the common cold” people made everybody rage against science and not care, and now nobody can get meaningful healthcare because the person the nurses & attendings are referring to as “the walking dead” just have to be kept alive & filling an ICU bed for 3+ weeks stuffed with a ventilator they’re never going to have removed until they’re dead.

fasteddie31003 5y ago
I said it's over for me. For my elderly parents or unhealthy people, it's not over.
- s5300 5y ago
  What do you mean by unhealthy? I have a friend, perfectly healthy, who was forced into crashing on their bike during commute in order to not get wrecked by a car. He fell & broke a few ribs & wrist, was not able to be seen for 28 hours in a major city. He’s still waiting on actual treatment (surgeries) & could/likely will have long lasting damaging from the delay. Perhaps it’s over except for our entire healthcare system has completely collapsed in the sense that it’s genuinely non-functional, except for keeping wave after wave of people, who workers already know are not leaving the hospital alive, in a bed for a few weeks. Perhaps I’m a bit angry, but I think it’s not at all considerate of your fellow citizens to say things like this - presuming you’re in the US, that is.
  - 5y ago