For me the answer is it's both. A 1000+ group isn't really a messenger service anymore. A 20 people family group clearly is a messenger service. So IMHO the

For me the answer is it's both. A 1000+ group isn't really a messenger service anymore. A 20 people family group clearly is a messenger service. So IMHO the question is where is the limit? And is the limit based on other factors then just the number of involved people? Also pushing this IMHO this doesn't change any of the problems they want to change. It likely even makes them worse.