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It's not like you need Telegram to buy Drugs in Hamburg. There are places like the U-Bahn Sternschanze or the Hafentreppe where Dealers have been continuously o
by bijant 5y ago
It's not like you need Telegram to buy Drugs in Hamburg. There are places like the U-Bahn Sternschanze or the Hafentreppe where Dealers have been continuously offering light and hard drugs for over a decade with an uptime that puts FAANG SLAs to shame. They occasionally get raided whenever the police wants to have their pictures in the local papers but it's not like there is anything you could get via Telegram that you couldn't get through a five minute walk. The only difference is that the Dealers protect their turf, so Telegram opens new avenues for competing dealers to enter the market.
- EGreg 5y agoI have seen this argument over and over but there is a power law and authorities just need to cut off the head off the probability distribution. Centralized messengers are no hydra.
- tut-urut-utut 5y agoJust wait until German police discovers a thing called SMS. Right now, we are lucky that Fax is still a thing in Germany, and the whole internet thing is just a "Neuland" (new land), as ex-chancellor Merkel admitted.
- EGreg 5y agoOh yes, because local telecommunication companies delivering SMS using archaic, non-end-to-end encrypted protocols are TOTALLY more resilient to government censorship than Telegram :-P Look, when it comes to SMS and craigslist-style things etc. I bet they will want to just keep them up so they can act as a dragnet for the fools who use them to organize criminal activity.
- tut-urut-utut 5y agoI'm not telling that SMS is secure. S stands for short, not secure. But given how easy it is to fake and forge SMS, at least one can have a plausible deniability if their SMS got intercepted and read.
- EGreg 5y agoHehe that’s true I started saying anyone can have anonymity and plausible deniability after they post their private keys publicly online :)