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Sadly, cutting out Germany means that you'd eventually have to cut out the entire EU. If you just block Germany they're going to push on the EU to take up this

Sadly, cutting out Germany means that you'd eventually have to cut out the entire EU. If you just block Germany they're going to push on the EU to take up this fight for them. It'll all be in the name of "stopping online abuse" or something like that. Germany, in general, seems to be a very poor country to do digital business compared to most other places. This is the same country that required (requires?) streamers to get a broadcasting license that cost thousands of euros to stream to more than 500 people.

danbruc 5y ago
[...] to stream to more than 500 people. More than 20,000 simultaneous viewers on averaged over a six months period and if the content is considered relevant for public opinion formation.
- Aerroon 5y ago
  It used to be 500 viewers. This change happened because streamers lobbied the government to enact change. Now it's just a higher number. The point of this example is to show what kind of a country it is and what the population of the country seems to think is okay. Digital business is something they seem to want to hinder.
b3orn 5y ago
It's the other way around, if it's not going through local legislation it gets pushed to the EU level. Doing digital business doesn't seem to be that hard considering that in the end everyone still tries to get german customers/subscribers. And the ruling on broadcasting licenses for streamers was relaxed a lot, it's required if you had more than 20 000 viewers on average over the last 6 months, only very few german streamers are affected by that.
- wreath 5y ago
  > And the ruling on broadcasting licenses for streamers was relaxed a lot, it's required if you had more than 20 000 viewers on average over the last 6 months, only very few german streamers are affected by that. That doesn't make it any better. You have +20k viewers on avg last 6 months and the government doesn't like what you are saying for any reason, they revoke your license. If this isn't a control over freedom of speech (and I'm not saying freedom to call violence on people or anything here), I don't know what is really.
vetinari 5y ago
> Sadly, cutting out Germany means that you'd eventually have to cut out the entire EU. Not really; some countries would be against just because it is Germany pushing for it. If necessary, they would call out Germany doing the nazi thing, again, and forcing the rest of Europe to do the same, again.

danbruc 5y ago

[...] to stream to more than 500 people. More than 20,000 simultaneous viewers on averaged over a six months period and if the content is considered relevant for public opinion formation.

Aerroon 5y ago
It used to be 500 viewers. This change happened because streamers lobbied the government to enact change. Now it's just a higher number. The point of this example is to show what kind of a country it is and what the population of the country seems to think is okay. Digital business is something they seem to want to hinder.

b3orn 5y ago

It's the other way around, if it's not going through local legislation it gets pushed to the EU level. Doing digital business doesn't seem to be that hard considering that in the end everyone still tries to get german customers/subscribers. And the ruling on broadcasting licenses for streamers was relaxed a lot, it's required if you had more than 20 000 viewers on average over the last 6 months, only very few german streamers are affected by that.

wreath 5y ago
> And the ruling on broadcasting licenses for streamers was relaxed a lot, it's required if you had more than 20 000 viewers on average over the last 6 months, only very few german streamers are affected by that. That doesn't make it any better. You have +20k viewers on avg last 6 months and the government doesn't like what you are saying for any reason, they revoke your license. If this isn't a control over freedom of speech (and I'm not saying freedom to call violence on people or anything here), I don't know what is really.

vetinari 5y ago

> Sadly, cutting out Germany means that you'd eventually have to cut out the entire EU. Not really; some countries would be against just because it is Germany pushing for it. If necessary, they would call out Germany doing the nazi thing, again, and forcing the rest of Europe to do the same, again.