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But you're incorrect? The lab leak theory is still widely considered to be an unlikely possibility.

mandmandam 5y ago
- prof-dr-ir 5y ago
  Sorry but where did you see me defend the lack of investigation?
  - mandmandam 5y ago
    ... I didn't say you did? Do you really not see the connection?
- ricardobayes 5y ago
  Why didn't it have road or mobile traffic for a week? Is this a fact? That said, even if it was manufactured, its release is probably a freak accident.
  - native_samples 5y ago
    US intelligence has many interesting discoveries about this lab. There were big sudden spikes in acquisitions of PCR testing equipment a few months before the virus was formally discovered, and I think cell tower data also showed weird activity there. The inference being that the lab was shut down or locked down. But you don't really need to take US intel's word for any of it. The grant application where the scientists literally propose modifying spike proteins of bat coronaviruses in the Wuhan Lab leaked from the DoD and you can read it for yourself: https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-grant-darpa/ https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-gra... https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-prop... https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/oVt6gT0yBx4eQXSeuNfEp/3cbbd7ef84e90c9702c1943c55d80f75/executive-slide-hr00118s0017-ecohealth-alliance-defuse.pdf https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/oVt6gT0yBx4eQXSeuN... "A GRANT PROPOSAL written by the U.S.-based nonprofit the EcoHealth Alliance and submitted in 2018 to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, provides evidence that the group was working — or at least planning to work — on several risky areas of research. Among the scientific tasks the group described in its proposal, which was rejected by DARPA, was the creation of full-length infectious clones of bat SARS-related coronaviruses and the insertion of a tiny part of the virus known as a “proteolytic cleavage site” into bat coronaviruses. Of particular interest was a type of cleavage site able to interact with furin, an enzyme expressed in human cells." Note that the names on this grant proposal were the same scientists that were executing this coverup and the ones responsible for the obvious lie that it couldn't have come from the lab. The idea that it wasn't created by scientists requires either a lack of information or tremendous naivety to continue holding onto. You can literally read their proposals to deliberately engineer viruses to be more infectious to humans and - even crazier - to deliberately release these viruses into bat caves and then spray airborne vaccines over self-same bats.
- hkt 5y ago
  I'd be intrigued to see any sources on those claims, can you provide some links?
  - teen 5y ago
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-...
causi 5y ago
There is a vast difference between responding to someone by saying it's unlikely and responding to someone by calling them a Republican/racist/Nazi, which is how several of my questions about the origins of Covid-19 with regards to its seemingly unique and varied symptoms were responded to during the first year of the pandemic.
- prof-dr-ir 5y ago
  Sure. I am sorry to hear you have been insulted - my comment is not to be interpreted as a justification of rude online behavior. By the way, what do you think of the tone of the other reply to my comment? (Did you perhaps see the now-deleted curse word at the end?)

prof-dr-ir 5y ago
Sorry but where did you see me defend the lack of investigation?
- mandmandam 5y ago
  ... I didn't say you did? Do you really not see the connection?
ricardobayes 5y ago
Why didn't it have road or mobile traffic for a week? Is this a fact? That said, even if it was manufactured, its release is probably a freak accident.
- native_samples 5y ago
  US intelligence has many interesting discoveries about this lab. There were big sudden spikes in acquisitions of PCR testing equipment a few months before the virus was formally discovered, and I think cell tower data also showed weird activity there. The inference being that the lab was shut down or locked down. But you don't really need to take US intel's word for any of it. The grant application where the scientists literally propose modifying spike proteins of bat coronaviruses in the Wuhan Lab leaked from the DoD and you can read it for yourself: https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-grant-darpa/ https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-gra... https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-prop... https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/oVt6gT0yBx4eQXSeuNfEp/3cbbd7ef84e90c9702c1943c55d80f75/executive-slide-hr00118s0017-ecohealth-alliance-defuse.pdf https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/oVt6gT0yBx4eQXSeuN... "A GRANT PROPOSAL written by the U.S.-based nonprofit the EcoHealth Alliance and submitted in 2018 to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, provides evidence that the group was working — or at least planning to work — on several risky areas of research. Among the scientific tasks the group described in its proposal, which was rejected by DARPA, was the creation of full-length infectious clones of bat SARS-related coronaviruses and the insertion of a tiny part of the virus known as a “proteolytic cleavage site” into bat coronaviruses. Of particular interest was a type of cleavage site able to interact with furin, an enzyme expressed in human cells." Note that the names on this grant proposal were the same scientists that were executing this coverup and the ones responsible for the obvious lie that it couldn't have come from the lab. The idea that it wasn't created by scientists requires either a lack of information or tremendous naivety to continue holding onto. You can literally read their proposals to deliberately engineer viruses to be more infectious to humans and - even crazier - to deliberately release these viruses into bat caves and then spray airborne vaccines over self-same bats.
hkt 5y ago
I'd be intrigued to see any sources on those claims, can you provide some links?
- teen 5y ago
  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-...

There is a vast difference between responding to someone by saying it's unlikely and responding to someone by calling them a Republican/racist/Nazi, which is how several of my questions about the origins of Covid-19 with regards to its seemingly unique and varied symptoms were responded to during the first year of the pandemic.

prof-dr-ir 5y ago
Sure. I am sorry to hear you have been insulted - my comment is not to be interpreted as a justification of rude online behavior. By the way, what do you think of the tone of the other reply to my comment? (Did you perhaps see the now-deleted curse word at the end?)