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This kind of defeatism is really sad to see. "Both are possible, so it's impossible to know. And even if we suspected, there's no good reason to try. And even

This kind of defeatism is really sad to see. "Both are possible, so it's impossible to know. And even if we suspected, there's no good reason to try. And even if we tried it's just going to burden people. And even if we knew it has no impact on our 'decision making'" How about, figuring out the truth is the right thing to do?

chmod775 5y ago
That is out of context and a misrepresentation. My comment is an explanation of the behavior of leaders and specifically addressing the article. It is very much not an opinion of what should be done where it doesn't concern international cooperation in a time of crisis. I'm very much for figuring out why a crisis occurred, because it might save lives down the line. That doesn't mean that it makes sense to burn bridges that are saving lives right now - especially if you can have both. Even if there was undeniable proof that the virus escaped a Chinese lab, the smart course of action for Fauci, his peers in other countries, the WHO, and pretty much anyone working with the Chinese would be to ignore it for now. Anything else would be endangering international cooperation and lives with it. For what?
me_me_me 5y ago
Its realism not defeatism, thats how global politics work. The fact it was a leak or not doesn't change the fact the virus is out. Thats the bottom line. There is no recourse, no fallout, no repercussions to going after china without solid evidence. "Shrug and deny" is all you will acheive. There are photos and evidence of china trying to wipe Uighur culture via violence, slave labour and 're-education' camps at nazi scale. Worldwide reaction - oh its terrible you should stop, please - nothing changes. Besides, how are you going to go about proving it was leaked/engineered? The officials probably already disappeared all witnesses/evidence anyway. The reality is we will never know for sure. Its very suspicious, that the virus started pretty much next to the lab. I myself 70% on side it was actually a leak (wouldn't be surprised a tested animal was smuggled out to be sold for meat - sounds very chinese thing to do). But it doesnt matter, virus is out and thats my main problem.

chmod775 5y ago

That is out of context and a misrepresentation. My comment is an explanation of the behavior of leaders and specifically addressing the article. It is very much not an opinion of what should be done where it doesn't concern international cooperation in a time of crisis. I'm very much for figuring out why a crisis occurred, because it might save lives down the line. That doesn't mean that it makes sense to burn bridges that are saving lives right now - especially if you can have both. Even if there was undeniable proof that the virus escaped a Chinese lab, the smart course of action for Fauci, his peers in other countries, the WHO, and pretty much anyone working with the Chinese would be to ignore it for now. Anything else would be endangering international cooperation and lives with it. For what?

me_me_me 5y ago

Its realism not defeatism, thats how global politics work. The fact it was a leak or not doesn't change the fact the virus is out. Thats the bottom line. There is no recourse, no fallout, no repercussions to going after china without solid evidence. "Shrug and deny" is all you will acheive. There are photos and evidence of china trying to wipe Uighur culture via violence, slave labour and 're-education' camps at nazi scale. Worldwide reaction - oh its terrible you should stop, please - nothing changes. Besides, how are you going to go about proving it was leaked/engineered? The officials probably already disappeared all witnesses/evidence anyway. The reality is we will never know for sure. Its very suspicious, that the virus started pretty much next to the lab. I myself 70% on side it was actually a leak (wouldn't be surprised a tested animal was smuggled out to be sold for meat - sounds very chinese thing to do). But it doesnt matter, virus is out and thats my main problem.