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I haven’t judged my abilities or rated them in our exchange and therefore Dunning-Kruger does not apply. You can’t know by how much I overrate myself or under

by syki 5y ago

I haven’t judged my abilities or rated them in our exchange and therefore Dunning-Kruger does not apply. You can’t know by how much I overrate myself or under rate myself; I’m just giving opinions. Just like you are giving an opinion about some federal law enforcement agencies being domestic terror organizations. This opinion of yours does not mean you think you are an expert or that you are overrating yourself. I could make the same baseless Dunning-Kruger accusation about you but I don’t because I actually understand that this cognitive bias pertains perceptions of oneself’s abilities and neither of us have made any self observations in our respective abilities. If you don’t believe Waco makes the law enforcement agencies in question domestic terror organizations then why bring up Waco? What is it that causes those agencies to be domestic terror organizations and why not give those reasons instead of bringing up Waco? These are rhetorical questions by the way.

notch656a 5y ago
>I haven’t judged my abilities So you just went off spouting all the blame lied on the 'cult' [or leaders thereof] without even bothering to make the slightest judgement whether you had the ability to say that. I didn't expect such a stunning admission, but at least we got the truth.
- syki 5y ago
  You stated an opinion about some law enforcement agencies being domestic terrorist organizations. You did not up this assertion. You provided no evidence other than to mention Waco. Was this opinion of yours, the certainty with which you made it, an example of Dunning-Kruger? If not then when is my stated opinion that federal agencies deserve no blame for Waco such an example? It’s strange that you don’t see how your reasoning about Dunning-Kruger applies to what you’ve written. You should strive to be consistent in your reasoning and apply it to your own arguments. It’s sloppy thinking to engage thusly.
  - notch656a 5y ago
    Well you admitted that you didn't assess your ability to make the statement. That you basically just spouted it off without thinking if you had the ability to say it truthfully: 'I haven’t judged my abilities.' So I agree, that isn't Dunning-Kruger on your part, just sloppy thinking. I withdraw the Dunning-Kruger statement based on your admission. I think we have way more information about the government and these agencies when looking at our national history, than just looking at single event Waco. With much more information, we have higher ability to make a statement. This is precisely why I did not say BECAUSE of Waco. But sure, Dunning-Kruger is merely observation of human trait, and not a sin at face. I think it's a lot more forgivable merely to actually over-estimate yourself after genuinely attempting to do so accurately. If I'm guilty of over-estimating my ability to think DoJ should investigate domestic terrorist organization that fired upon civilians at Waco, that can be your opinion. More forgivable than straight up not even assessing if you have ability to truthfully assign ALL of blame for dozens of horrible deaths with members of 'cult', but making the accusation anyway, which you have so sloppily done.

by syki 5y ago

notch656a 5y ago

>I haven’t judged my abilities So you just went off spouting all the blame lied on the 'cult' [or leaders thereof] without even bothering to make the slightest judgement whether you had the ability to say that. I didn't expect such a stunning admission, but at least we got the truth.

syki 5y ago
You stated an opinion about some law enforcement agencies being domestic terrorist organizations. You did not up this assertion. You provided no evidence other than to mention Waco. Was this opinion of yours, the certainty with which you made it, an example of Dunning-Kruger? If not then when is my stated opinion that federal agencies deserve no blame for Waco such an example? It’s strange that you don’t see how your reasoning about Dunning-Kruger applies to what you’ve written. You should strive to be consistent in your reasoning and apply it to your own arguments. It’s sloppy thinking to engage thusly.
- notch656a 5y ago
  Well you admitted that you didn't assess your ability to make the statement. That you basically just spouted it off without thinking if you had the ability to say it truthfully: 'I haven’t judged my abilities.' So I agree, that isn't Dunning-Kruger on your part, just sloppy thinking. I withdraw the Dunning-Kruger statement based on your admission. I think we have way more information about the government and these agencies when looking at our national history, than just looking at single event Waco. With much more information, we have higher ability to make a statement. This is precisely why I did not say BECAUSE of Waco. But sure, Dunning-Kruger is merely observation of human trait, and not a sin at face. I think it's a lot more forgivable merely to actually over-estimate yourself after genuinely attempting to do so accurately. If I'm guilty of over-estimating my ability to think DoJ should investigate domestic terrorist organization that fired upon civilians at Waco, that can be your opinion. More forgivable than straight up not even assessing if you have ability to truthfully assign ALL of blame for dozens of horrible deaths with members of 'cult', but making the accusation anyway, which you have so sloppily done.