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>The coup plot has been confessed to already Can you explain why we're calling this a coup when nobody has been charged with anything related to a coup/insurre

by yucky 5y ago

>The coup plot has been confessed to already Can you explain why we're calling this a coup when nobody has been charged with anything related to a coup/insurrection/treason etc? You wrote a huge text wall as if that helps your point, but missed the most obvious - nobody in the Department of Justice actually thinks there was a coup attempt.

ModernMech 5y ago
If someone tells you they have a plan to affect a fraud which would prevent the transfer of power from the duly-elected executive and instead divert that power to someone else, what word would you use to describe this plan? Also, you can't assert that no one at DOJ thinks this is a coup attempt. All you can assert is that no one at DOJ has said so publicly, which is not a very strong evidence of anything, since that's how they operate in a general sense. It takes a long time to bring charges for anything at the federal level, and this particular charge needs to be more airtight than anything they've ever charged in the past. It may also be that they are afraid of looking partisan in doing so, and are waiting for a referral from the bipartisan Jan 6 committee.
ModernMech 5y ago
I am not sure if you are still monitoring these replies, but if you are I would just like to bring to your attention this development from today, which speaks directly to your assertion that DoJ does not view Jan 6 as an insurrection: Stewart Rhodes — founder and leader of the extremist group Oath Keepers, whose members are accused of being key players in the Jan. 6 attack on Congress — has been indicted and arrested, people familiar with the matter said Thursday. The 56-year-old, who was at the Capitol that day but has said he did not enter the building, is the most high-profile person charged in the investigation so far. He and 10 others were charged with seditious conspiracy, these people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. https://archive.is/lbETR https://archive.is/lbETR Jan 6 is an ongoing story, it’s developing in real time. DoJ is working up the chain of command. They’ve been working on the rubes and foot soldiers for the past year. Now they are going after lieutenants with seditious conspiracy charges. Once those charges start sticking (and they will) the DoJ will go after the generals of the Jan 6 insurrection.

by yucky 5y ago

ModernMech 5y ago

If someone tells you they have a plan to affect a fraud which would prevent the transfer of power from the duly-elected executive and instead divert that power to someone else, what word would you use to describe this plan? Also, you can't assert that no one at DOJ thinks this is a coup attempt. All you can assert is that no one at DOJ has said so publicly, which is not a very strong evidence of anything, since that's how they operate in a general sense. It takes a long time to bring charges for anything at the federal level, and this particular charge needs to be more airtight than anything they've ever charged in the past. It may also be that they are afraid of looking partisan in doing so, and are waiting for a referral from the bipartisan Jan 6 committee.

ModernMech 5y ago

I am not sure if you are still monitoring these replies, but if you are I would just like to bring to your attention this development from today, which speaks directly to your assertion that DoJ does not view Jan 6 as an insurrection: Stewart Rhodes — founder and leader of the extremist group Oath Keepers, whose members are accused of being key players in the Jan. 6 attack on Congress — has been indicted and arrested, people familiar with the matter said Thursday. The 56-year-old, who was at the Capitol that day but has said he did not enter the building, is the most high-profile person charged in the investigation so far. He and 10 others were charged with seditious conspiracy, these people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. https://archive.is/lbETR https://archive.is/lbETR Jan 6 is an ongoing story, it’s developing in real time. DoJ is working up the chain of command. They’ve been working on the rubes and foot soldiers for the past year. Now they are going after lieutenants with seditious conspiracy charges. Once those charges start sticking (and they will) the DoJ will go after the generals of the Jan 6 insurrection.