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There are plenty of other wasteful activities that should be limited as well. Classic whataboutism. First of all your entire comparison makes no sense, you hav
by endisneigh 5y ago
There are plenty of other wasteful activities that should be limited as well.
Classic whataboutism. First of all your entire comparison makes no sense, you have to compare alternatives for use. What's the alternative to a dryer. Using a line and hanging your clothes. Fair enough, what about in the winter in New York? A ventless dryer? Doesn't use substantially less energy. And so forth.
For every conceivable use case there exists alternatives that use orders of magnitude less energy. NFTs, sending money, federated computing, you name it, something already exists.
The only reason blockchain is a thing is because cryptocurrencies are booming in terms of how much they're sold for. The end.
- jrockway 5y ago> Fair enough, what about in the winter in New York? I dry my clothes on a line in the winter in New York. It's below zero outside, but like 80 degrees and 0% humidity inside my apartment. Clothes dry fast. (And the space was already being heated, because I live in it, and it's against the law for the landlord to allow the temperature to go below 55 degrees, and they are paranoid, so it's more like 80-90 all winter.)
- netizen-936824 5y agoIts 80 in your place? Holy shit, I would just be sweating all the time. And finding a new place to live
- jrockway 5y agoSometimes I feel like I have a fever and am getting sick, then I realize it's probably just in the 90s and I should open a window. Not great. This is with all my radiators turned off! The heat is on a timer so it's not like this all the time, but I have to wonder what a world where thermostats have been invented would be like.
- Tenoke 5y ago>Fair enough, what about in the winter in New York? Large swathes of Europe have winters as bad or even worse than New York's. I've grown up in one of those countries and had never seen a home clothes dryer before visiting the US. I've also almost never seen them in London or Berlin where I lived after that and those have at most marginally warmer winters than New York.
- bratwurst3000 5y agoI live in west germany and they are very comon here….
- ericd 5y agoThen you can use a drying rack indoors, as Europeans do... They look like this: https://alittlelifeineurope.com/2017/09/10/in-praise-of-the-european-drying-rack/ https://alittlelifeineurope.com/2017/09/10/in-praise-of-the-... Electrical resistive heating clothes dryers are an enormous energy hog.
- endisneigh 5y agoI'm familiar - however it's slow. What do you do if you need your clean clothes to be dried quickly?
- ericd 5y agoBuy merino wool clothing, it dries very quickly :-)
- fomine3 5y agoIt's time to heat pump
- ericd 5y agoYeah, though the heat pump dryers I've seen don't sound like they perform very well for some reason. I need to look into it more. Heat pump water heaters, though, are supposedly much better than resistive.
- yourusername 5y agoNot all Europeans use a drying rack indoors. In the Netherlands only the poor do this. It takes a long time and doesn't even save any energy as the water from your clothes makes your entire house humid and feel cold in the winter.
- ericd 5y agoShrug we've been mostly using them, they seem to work well enough.
- i386 5y agoSpot the cryptoshill.