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> Apple stands between me and my carrier’s sms service No, you chose to put Apple between you and your carrier. Make a different choice. Apple isn't imposing

> Apple stands between me and my carrier’s sms service No, you chose to put Apple between you and your carrier. Make a different choice. Apple isn't imposing itself on you. > monopolistic behavior > It doesn’t matter to me if a company achieves a monopoly Ok, so you don't actually care what the meaning of these words are, you just want to throw them around when someone does something that you don't like.

kennywinker 5y ago
> No, you chose to put Apple between you and your carrier. Right, because the other option was to put google between me and my carrier - which comes with a ton of stuff i’d be upset about (e.g. terrible privacy protections) but you’d blame me for “choosing” because you don’t actually care if I have a choice you just want to blame me eye rolls
- kergonath 5y ago
  Well, no. You can just not use iMessages. Even on an iPhone.
aldebran 5y ago
There’s always someone who makes this argument “don’t use them”. This is no longer grounded in reality my friend. If there are 2 restaurants in town - one that continuously snaps pictures of my every move and the other that won’t let me drink coke the way I want to, saying eat at home always is not a solution. “Apple isn’t imposing itself on you”. Both Apple and Google don’t force people to use them but they do things that make it harder and harder to choose neither of them. In 2022 it’s not easily possible to live without Apple or Google as a consumer without severely putting yourself at a disadvantage. Regulation is needed not to create an even playing field but to stop companies from screwing consumers. This is why European and Australian warranty and quality laws for products are much better than American ones. Saying make a different choice only leads to all companies to do the bare legal minimum. In these cases upping the legal bare minimum is absolutely necessary. Americans seriously need to stop drinking this free market Cool aid. It’s not a free market. It’s highly lop sided and the consumers are at a disadvantage.
- aldebran 5y ago
  Anyone care to reply instead of downvoting?

kennywinker 5y ago

> No, you chose to put Apple between you and your carrier. Right, because the other option was to put google between me and my carrier - which comes with a ton of stuff i’d be upset about (e.g. terrible privacy protections) but you’d blame me for “choosing” because you don’t actually care if I have a choice you just want to blame me eye rolls

kergonath 5y ago
Well, no. You can just not use iMessages. Even on an iPhone.

aldebran 5y ago

There’s always someone who makes this argument “don’t use them”. This is no longer grounded in reality my friend. If there are 2 restaurants in town - one that continuously snaps pictures of my every move and the other that won’t let me drink coke the way I want to, saying eat at home always is not a solution. “Apple isn’t imposing itself on you”. Both Apple and Google don’t force people to use them but they do things that make it harder and harder to choose neither of them. In 2022 it’s not easily possible to live without Apple or Google as a consumer without severely putting yourself at a disadvantage. Regulation is needed not to create an even playing field but to stop companies from screwing consumers. This is why European and Australian warranty and quality laws for products are much better than American ones. Saying make a different choice only leads to all companies to do the bare legal minimum. In these cases upping the legal bare minimum is absolutely necessary. Americans seriously need to stop drinking this free market Cool aid. It’s not a free market. It’s highly lop sided and the consumers are at a disadvantage.

aldebran 5y ago
Anyone care to reply instead of downvoting?