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You posted data about parking tickets. This is not evidence that street parking provides sufficient capacity.
by dpark 5y ago
You posted data about parking tickets. This is not evidence that street parking provides sufficient capacity.
- tptacek 5y agoIf you have actual data about parking usage in this area, I'm all ears. I'm much less interested in your axiomatic derivation of how parking here works. At any rate: I answered your question about "where all this on-street parking comes from". You can do the math on the carrying capacity of an Oak Park street for parking; you've got the maps, after all.
- dpark 5y agoI think my back of the envelope math is more compelling than your assertion that parking tickets implies sufficient parking capacity. If there’s enough street parking, then why the proposal to charge so much for street parking to moderate demand?
- tptacek 5y agoYou don't understand my argument, which has nothing to do with whether we should charge for street parking (we should). There's not much point in us continuing here.
- dpark 5y agoI absolutely do not understand your argument. That’s why I’ve asked you to clarify it several times. This is what I responded to: > What we should be doing is eliminating all off-street parking requirements […] and then simply charging for convenient on-street parking I don’t understand how this solves for any parking issues. It seems like it will create a significant parking issue. There is insufficient street parking for this to work. Yes, you can hypothetically charge to death until most people stop parking on the street but that just means they’ll vote out the board who instituted the parking fees that make it “convenient”, and the poor will be screwed over either way.
- tptacek 5y agoNone of our problems involve insufficient street parking.
- dpark 5y agoYou’re strangely curt. I think your proposal would absolutely result in insufficient street parking. That seems self-evident since the plan starts with charging enough to reduce street parking congestion. Fine if you don’t want to discuss, though.
- tptacek 5y agoNo part of our problems involve street congestion.