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I find the reference to Jan 6th funny. It tells me this is political theater and not a real attempt to stop domestic terrorism at all. And honestly, where's th

I find the reference to Jan 6th funny. It tells me this is political theater and not a real attempt to stop domestic terrorism at all. And honestly, where's the domestic terrorism? The closest thing I can think of was the Vegas shooting, not known to be ideologically motivated. Before that it was the Boston marathon, which was foreign nationals, before that 9/11, which was foreign actors. And before that, Oklahoma city... January 6th? Really? Let's get real for a second on this one, partisans on the left claim this was terrorism when it wasn't and partisans on the right claim BLM protests are terrorism when they aren't. These are all protests that got a little out of hand. Do we really want a task force to deal with rowdy protests and prosecute them the same as the Boston bomber? What kind of country do you want to live in?

trs8080 5y ago
here's some! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Post-2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Post-2001
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  But that's partisan, is there anything talking about "terrorism" as in, equally abhorrent acts without regard to partisanship? The article referenced has the January 6th protest listed there and then claims no deaths from left wing attacks, even though there are plenty of left wing protests comparable to January 6th in which people were killed. They are comparable, so it seems to me to be cherry picking what you'd call "terrorism." Any source that calls January 6th terrorism or BLM protests terrorism are not to be taken seriously for this reason. Either they both are or they both aren't, and I don't want to start calling every single disobedient act terrorism just because some people get out of hand, that's a slippery slope. The arricle puts jihadist and other right wing related violence under one umbrella, so as to pad the numbers it would seem. You can call jihadism "right wing" and you'd be right, but you'd be ignoring an ideological distinction so plainly obvious that one would be warranted in presuming said ignorance is deliberate.
FFRefresh 5y ago
We have a well-funded national security 'state' in the United States, and a decreasing appetite to impose our will abroad. Looking inward/domestically seems like the natural response by organizations that want to stay alive and continue doing what they do. I'm not surprised that there is increasing rhetoric of the 'domestic terrorism' threat from our officials/traditional media, that doesn't have to be tied to increasing objective harm to the public by such threats. I would not expect this rhetoric to die down anytime soon, unless there are sufficient opportunities abroad for our security state/military to invest in. I know partisans want to hop on the bandwagon when their political opposition is being lambasted as the 'domestic terrorists' by the media/our officials, but they should really think hard about the precedent and power that they are bequeathing our security state. The application of that power will not just be limited to be used only on those YOU don't like.
Fatnino 5y ago
We collecting domistic terrorist attacks here? Add this to the list. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Palo_Verde,_Arizona_derailment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Palo_Verde,_Arizona_der...
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  No, we weren't. But I hadn't heard of this one, that's interesting.

trs8080 5y ago

here's some! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Post-2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Post-2001

betwixthewires 5y ago
But that's partisan, is there anything talking about "terrorism" as in, equally abhorrent acts without regard to partisanship? The article referenced has the January 6th protest listed there and then claims no deaths from left wing attacks, even though there are plenty of left wing protests comparable to January 6th in which people were killed. They are comparable, so it seems to me to be cherry picking what you'd call "terrorism." Any source that calls January 6th terrorism or BLM protests terrorism are not to be taken seriously for this reason. Either they both are or they both aren't, and I don't want to start calling every single disobedient act terrorism just because some people get out of hand, that's a slippery slope. The arricle puts jihadist and other right wing related violence under one umbrella, so as to pad the numbers it would seem. You can call jihadism "right wing" and you'd be right, but you'd be ignoring an ideological distinction so plainly obvious that one would be warranted in presuming said ignorance is deliberate.

FFRefresh 5y ago

We have a well-funded national security 'state' in the United States, and a decreasing appetite to impose our will abroad. Looking inward/domestically seems like the natural response by organizations that want to stay alive and continue doing what they do. I'm not surprised that there is increasing rhetoric of the 'domestic terrorism' threat from our officials/traditional media, that doesn't have to be tied to increasing objective harm to the public by such threats. I would not expect this rhetoric to die down anytime soon, unless there are sufficient opportunities abroad for our security state/military to invest in. I know partisans want to hop on the bandwagon when their political opposition is being lambasted as the 'domestic terrorists' by the media/our officials, but they should really think hard about the precedent and power that they are bequeathing our security state. The application of that power will not just be limited to be used only on those YOU don't like.

Fatnino 5y ago

We collecting domistic terrorist attacks here? Add this to the list. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Palo_Verde,_Arizona_derailment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Palo_Verde,_Arizona_der...

betwixthewires 5y ago
No, we weren't. But I hadn't heard of this one, that's interesting.