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> The world would be a better place if more politicians and their ilk were terrified of the people. Giving more weight to people willing to threaten violence w

> The world would be a better place if more politicians and their ilk were terrified of the people. Giving more weight to people willing to threaten violence won't fix your problems.

orang2tang 5y ago
Actually the people who formed the US say otherwise. The tree of liberty is watered with the blood of tyrants.
- joconde 5y ago
  And now you have people wanting the exact opposite (a de facto tyrant, in power because an election was overturned) trying to get their way. More precisely: making a freely elected government more vulnerable to violence won't yield an improvement.
  - orang2tang 5y ago
    I can tell you're stuck in the left/right braintrap
- krapp 5y ago
  >Actually the people who formed the US say otherwise. The tree of liberty is watered with the blood of tyrants. There should be a law against using a quote from an American founding father without understanding its original context or the subtlety and dry wit of literate, pre-internet language. The person who wrote that was not saying what you think they were, nor were their beliefs about political violence what you think they were. Also, just for the record, because you seem to be one of those, that person was also a supporter of vaccinations when the science was in its infancy, the risks were little understood and vaccines actually were dangerous.
  - orang2tang 5y ago
    I like how you're basically like "he didn't mean it like that" and then go on to not support your claim at all lmao. I'd be a supporter of vaccines as well if they were a new scientific technology, not corrupted by big pharma for profit / to make infinite customers. The COVID shots are not a vaccine either it's why we're still in this mess. If you still deny that reality after all that has happened and continues to happen then no one can help you. Let's see here. YOU pay for the vaccine with YOUR tax dollars, every shot administered also is paid with YOUR tax dollars, marketing paid with YOUR tax dollars, mandates paid with YOUR tax dollars. And we have the most infections / deaths ever occuring around the world. Accept that you're being scammed and you might start to understand why the tree of liberty needs the blood of tyrants.

> The world would be a better place if more politicians and their ilk were terrified of the people. Giving more weight to people willing to threaten violence won't fix your problems.

orang2tang 5y ago

Actually the people who formed the US say otherwise. The tree of liberty is watered with the blood of tyrants.

joconde 5y ago
And now you have people wanting the exact opposite (a de facto tyrant, in power because an election was overturned) trying to get their way. More precisely: making a freely elected government more vulnerable to violence won't yield an improvement.
- orang2tang 5y ago
  I can tell you're stuck in the left/right braintrap
krapp 5y ago
>Actually the people who formed the US say otherwise. The tree of liberty is watered with the blood of tyrants. There should be a law against using a quote from an American founding father without understanding its original context or the subtlety and dry wit of literate, pre-internet language. The person who wrote that was not saying what you think they were, nor were their beliefs about political violence what you think they were. Also, just for the record, because you seem to be one of those, that person was also a supporter of vaccinations when the science was in its infancy, the risks were little understood and vaccines actually were dangerous.
- orang2tang 5y ago
  I like how you're basically like "he didn't mean it like that" and then go on to not support your claim at all lmao. I'd be a supporter of vaccines as well if they were a new scientific technology, not corrupted by big pharma for profit / to make infinite customers. The COVID shots are not a vaccine either it's why we're still in this mess. If you still deny that reality after all that has happened and continues to happen then no one can help you. Let's see here. YOU pay for the vaccine with YOUR tax dollars, every shot administered also is paid with YOUR tax dollars, marketing paid with YOUR tax dollars, mandates paid with YOUR tax dollars. And we have the most infections / deaths ever occuring around the world. Accept that you're being scammed and you might start to understand why the tree of liberty needs the blood of tyrants.