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>those people actually got inside and just milled around. there was no plot, no mission. "Babbitt was part of the crowd that gained access to a hallway outside

>those people actually got inside and just milled around. there was no plot, no mission. "Babbitt was part of the crowd that gained access to a hallway outside the Speaker’s Lobby, which leads to the House chamber. She was shot once by an officer as she tried to climb through the broken glass window of a door to the lobby, which had been barricaded from the inside with furniture." https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/14/officer-who-killed-capitol-rioter-ashli-babbitt-wont-be-charged-doj-says.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/14/officer-who-killed-capitol-r... That seems to be an adequate contradiction to your comment.

kryogen1c 5y ago
because she climbed through a window? you think that necessiates a federal program treating its citizens as adversaries and changes the tone of jan 6 from unplanned riot to domestic terrorism?
- MisterBastahrd 5y ago
  All those people, just randomly showing up in the same place at the same time and all deciding to walk on down to the US Capitol to break in and stop votes from being counted... totally unplanned.
  - kryogen1c 5y ago
    oh? what votes were being counted? im not making the claim the gathering was an accident. framing it as an insurrection or coup (instead of protest/riot) is laughable, and now we reap what we sow. time for better government oversight of us unruly citizens.
    - MisterBastahrd 5y ago
      Are you seriously THAT unaware of how the entire US electoral process works? The entire point of the January 6th insurrection was to bully Mike Pence into either refusing to count the certified ballots of certain states to throw the election to the House of Representatives, where Republicans held a majority at the time, or to delay the counting long enough that they would have to again go with those alternative means. They wanted to invalidate the election by force. It's not "laughable," it's what happened.

kryogen1c 5y ago

because she climbed through a window? you think that necessiates a federal program treating its citizens as adversaries and changes the tone of jan 6 from unplanned riot to domestic terrorism?

MisterBastahrd 5y ago
All those people, just randomly showing up in the same place at the same time and all deciding to walk on down to the US Capitol to break in and stop votes from being counted... totally unplanned.
- kryogen1c 5y ago
  oh? what votes were being counted? im not making the claim the gathering was an accident. framing it as an insurrection or coup (instead of protest/riot) is laughable, and now we reap what we sow. time for better government oversight of us unruly citizens.
  - MisterBastahrd 5y ago
    Are you seriously THAT unaware of how the entire US electoral process works? The entire point of the January 6th insurrection was to bully Mike Pence into either refusing to count the certified ballots of certain states to throw the election to the House of Representatives, where Republicans held a majority at the time, or to delay the counting long enough that they would have to again go with those alternative means. They wanted to invalidate the election by force. It's not "laughable," it's what happened.