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The Kavanaugh protesters did the exact same thing just a year prior, though, and nobody was arrested and nobody claimed to being terrified that day.

joshuamorton 5y ago
> The Kavanaugh protesters did the exact same thing just a year prior Minus the whole forced entry thing. > and nobody was arrested Also untrue (or at least equivalently untrue. People were charged with crimes, although afaict all misdemeanors because there was no forced entry or threats of violence) > and nobody claimed to being terrified that day Probably because they weren't the same.
space_fountain 5y ago
I think that's not true. I'm sympathetic to this sort of violence not being dissimilar from some violence on the left. Things like storming police stations, but people were arrested (https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/04/politics/kavanaugh-protests-us-capitol/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/04/politics/kavanaugh-protests-u...) and it seems to me like waiting in line to sit in the observation gallery and then making some noise or confronting people isn't the same as pushing past police barricades and killing people or dragged them into a crowd and beat them (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/capitol-mob-violence-police.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/capitol-mob-violence-p...). I'm a person who often falls into false equivalents so it's very important for me to be reminded that these aren't the same
- commandlinefan 5y ago
  > killing people Only only person died in the 1/6 protest, and it was one of the protesters (shot and killed by a police officer).
  - space_fountain 5y ago
    Ah no you are right apologies, that was based on initial reports by the police and since it has come out that in fact none of the beatings directly killed anyone. Probably. He did die the next day of a stroke so the timing is still a tad suspicious. What is your point here? Are you admitting that yes 1/6 was in fact way more of a deal than the Kavanaugh protests?
thinkcontext 5y ago
The Kavanaugh protesters assaulted 140 officers with bear spray, clubs, fire extinguishers and broke doors and windows as they sought lawmakers?

joshuamorton 5y ago

> The Kavanaugh protesters did the exact same thing just a year prior Minus the whole forced entry thing. > and nobody was arrested Also untrue (or at least equivalently untrue. People were charged with crimes, although afaict all misdemeanors because there was no forced entry or threats of violence) > and nobody claimed to being terrified that day Probably because they weren't the same.

space_fountain 5y ago

I think that's not true. I'm sympathetic to this sort of violence not being dissimilar from some violence on the left. Things like storming police stations, but people were arrested (https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/04/politics/kavanaugh-protests-us-capitol/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/04/politics/kavanaugh-protests-u...) and it seems to me like waiting in line to sit in the observation gallery and then making some noise or confronting people isn't the same as pushing past police barricades and killing people or dragged them into a crowd and beat them (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/capitol-mob-violence-police.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/capitol-mob-violence-p...). I'm a person who often falls into false equivalents so it's very important for me to be reminded that these aren't the same

commandlinefan 5y ago
> killing people Only only person died in the 1/6 protest, and it was one of the protesters (shot and killed by a police officer).
- space_fountain 5y ago
  Ah no you are right apologies, that was based on initial reports by the police and since it has come out that in fact none of the beatings directly killed anyone. Probably. He did die the next day of a stroke so the timing is still a tad suspicious. What is your point here? Are you admitting that yes 1/6 was in fact way more of a deal than the Kavanaugh protests?

thinkcontext 5y ago

The Kavanaugh protesters assaulted 140 officers with bear spray, clubs, fire extinguishers and broke doors and windows as they sought lawmakers?