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You say that, but then imagine "the other side" calling BLM protests, etc as domestic terrorists and same feds go after them.

by gedy 5y ago

kstrauser 5y ago
So we should never investigate partisan criminals because someday "the other side" might do the same. That leads to the situation where any violence is allowed, and I don't want to live in that society.
- runjake 5y ago
  I think the commenter was just trying to even the political playing field. The threat list you provided seemed like it was from someone left-leaning. It did not mention the commonly-occurring mayhem, riots, vandalism, and arson coming from people describing themselves as affiliated with Leftist organizations (sorry, I cannot find better wording here. I am not trying to sound partisan here.)
- fallingknife 5y ago
  They are being investigated now by law enforcement without this special unit.
aschearer 5y ago
That happened. They sent white vans to pick people up in Portland... https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-us...
giraffe_lady 5y ago
Yes. Leftist activists tend to be pretty unenthusiastic about this stuff because any new tools, powers, or resources will be turned on us eventually. Shit just in the last few years we've had pipeline protestors charged with domestic terrorism, BLM protestors facing gang enhancement felony charges for property damage (paint not arson if that matters). It's good that the government is ready to back down its stance of "ignore extremist violence as long as they call themselves patriots" but I don't want to find out what the tucker carlson administration would do with a domestic terrorism task force ya know?
jauer 5y ago
The FBI has a long history of going after leftist groups. In recent memory: https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-threat-of-eco-terrorism https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-threat-... This sounds like it's creating a central function instead of leaving it to regional JTTFs.
RickJWagner 5y ago
I won't be surprised one little bit if this happens. How can they form a new unit when Washington is trashed, but stand by when inner city neighborhoods are set afire? History wouldn't judge that kindly.

You say that, but then imagine "the other side" calling BLM protests, etc as domestic terrorists and same feds go after them.

by gedy 5y ago

You say that, but then imagine "the other side" calling BLM protests, etc as domestic terrorists and same feds go after them.

kstrauser 5y ago

So we should never investigate partisan criminals because someday "the other side" might do the same. That leads to the situation where any violence is allowed, and I don't want to live in that society.

runjake 5y ago
I think the commenter was just trying to even the political playing field. The threat list you provided seemed like it was from someone left-leaning. It did not mention the commonly-occurring mayhem, riots, vandalism, and arson coming from people describing themselves as affiliated with Leftist organizations (sorry, I cannot find better wording here. I am not trying to sound partisan here.)
fallingknife 5y ago
They are being investigated now by law enforcement without this special unit.

aschearer 5y ago

That happened. They sent white vans to pick people up in Portland... https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-us...

giraffe_lady 5y ago

Yes. Leftist activists tend to be pretty unenthusiastic about this stuff because any new tools, powers, or resources will be turned on us eventually. Shit just in the last few years we've had pipeline protestors charged with domestic terrorism, BLM protestors facing gang enhancement felony charges for property damage (paint not arson if that matters). It's good that the government is ready to back down its stance of "ignore extremist violence as long as they call themselves patriots" but I don't want to find out what the tucker carlson administration would do with a domestic terrorism task force ya know?

jauer 5y ago

The FBI has a long history of going after leftist groups. In recent memory: https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-threat-of-eco-terrorism https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-threat-... This sounds like it's creating a central function instead of leaving it to regional JTTFs.

RickJWagner 5y ago

I won't be surprised one little bit if this happens. How can they form a new unit when Washington is trashed, but stand by when inner city neighborhoods are set afire? History wouldn't judge that kindly.