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I live in the Paris, France area, and I think most people here that are not themselves driving such things are hoping that motorized two wheel vehicle gets outl

by forty 5y ago

I live in the Paris, France area, and I think most people here that are not themselves driving such things are hoping that motorized two wheel vehicle gets outlawed. I'm not sure why, but people driving those seem to completely ignore driving laws (red lights, stop sign, lanes, etc) which makes them very dangerous and annoying. Not to mention the noise (for those which are not electric)

criddell 5y ago
In Austin, motorcycles generally follow the same rules as cars. The two wheeled vehicles that seem to annoy most people are bicycles and for the reasons you state (except noise).
- decafninja 5y ago
  I think you'll find this true in most places, at least in the US. The main differentiating factor is probably the consequences - or lack of. Disobey traffic laws and get caught in a car or motorcycle - you face consequences that can range from harsh to at least significantly annoying enough that you'd rather not. Do the same in a bike, and most people don't care beyond giving you the finger or a nasty look. Even cops don't care more often than not. True - you don't have a cage of steel surrounding you like in a car so you also risk being killed or maimed, but I've found most cyclists also have a sense of invincibility until they actually get hurt. I am guilty of this myself.
- forty 5y ago
  Yes, bicycles too, maybe worse. But I tolerate them better because at least it's good for our planet. Also when I drive (very very rarely), I have been much more annoyed by motorcycles which are passing on the right or driving between cars than by bicycles which tend to only be in areas where you can to drive really slow anyway, do it's much less dangerous.
cinntaile 5y ago
It would be nice to see them outlawed in city centres but for a completely different reason. Pollution. Those 2-stroke engines pollute a lot more than cars nowadays and with the rise in food delivery services these vehicles have been on the rise. Likely undoing the effects of banning old cars from city centres.

by forty 5y ago

criddell 5y ago

In Austin, motorcycles generally follow the same rules as cars. The two wheeled vehicles that seem to annoy most people are bicycles and for the reasons you state (except noise).

decafninja 5y ago
I think you'll find this true in most places, at least in the US. The main differentiating factor is probably the consequences - or lack of. Disobey traffic laws and get caught in a car or motorcycle - you face consequences that can range from harsh to at least significantly annoying enough that you'd rather not. Do the same in a bike, and most people don't care beyond giving you the finger or a nasty look. Even cops don't care more often than not. True - you don't have a cage of steel surrounding you like in a car so you also risk being killed or maimed, but I've found most cyclists also have a sense of invincibility until they actually get hurt. I am guilty of this myself.
forty 5y ago
Yes, bicycles too, maybe worse. But I tolerate them better because at least it's good for our planet. Also when I drive (very very rarely), I have been much more annoyed by motorcycles which are passing on the right or driving between cars than by bicycles which tend to only be in areas where you can to drive really slow anyway, do it's much less dangerous.

cinntaile 5y ago

It would be nice to see them outlawed in city centres but for a completely different reason. Pollution. Those 2-stroke engines pollute a lot more than cars nowadays and with the rise in food delivery services these vehicles have been on the rise. Likely undoing the effects of banning old cars from city centres.