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In fact, if old movies are to be believed, you could just give your ticket to someone else. Tickets should still be transferable, right now airlines use the pre

In fact, if old movies are to be believed, you could just give your ticket to someone else. Tickets should still be transferable, right now airlines use the pretext of security to say that one shouldn't be able to re-sell their tickets, but I call BS.

jaywalk 5y ago
You call BS on airlines not knowing who is on a flight being a security issue?
- bigmattystyles 5y ago
  I call BS on them not being able to handle it - you would still need to show ID to go through the gate and go through security. But if you can buy a ticket at the counter and board 10 minutes later, why can't you transfer the ticket to someone else up to say an hour before the flight. Whatever security checks they do are likely (near) instant. They use security as the pretext for not doing this, but I am guessing the real reason is that would ruin their overbooking schemes.
  - astrea 5y ago
    I hate when businesses try to make money
    - serf 5y ago
      > I hate when businesses try to make money who will think of the airline mega-corps and their insanely rich backers that capitalized such a locked-down already-for-profit industry in a country that supports near monopolies on infrastructural services? they're the ones I worry about most.
      - mardifoufs 5y ago
        Airlines aren't exactly known for fabulous margins. I get your point, and I never feel bad for a corporation, but I think airlines are probably one of the few sectors with a hypercompetitive market, tons of options, and pretty low margins. they have basically 0 monopoly, so they compete very harshly on prices and services. Also, I'm not sure who the insanely rich backers would be considering airlines usually aren't exactly family empires and have pretty mediocre investment returns
- phendrenad2 5y ago
  You still need to present ID to get through security, so they'll still know who got on the plane.
zokier 5y ago
US gov requires passenger data, so that is why tickets are named to specific passengers. Of course you could argue that airlines could facilitate still ticket transfers by updating the data (same way they handle cancellation+new reservation) but I can understand that they don't want to deal with that sort of hassle. https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/government-tsa/secure-flight-passenger-data--sfpd--faqs.html# https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/go... > The Secure Flight Passenger Data program (SFPD) is a program of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) designed to enhance the security of air travel. Secure Flight regulations are mandatory for all flights for U.S.-based carriers and flights which are in, out, or overflights for international –based aircraft operators. > Under Secure Flight regulations all passengers (including minors) must provide Secure Flight Passenger Data (SFPD) at the time of ticketing, or the intent to ticket (i.e. travel vouchers). APIS is another similar requirement of delivering actual passenger manifests of flights: https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/government-tsa/advanced-passenger-information-plus--api---program.html# https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/go... And there are probably a multitude of other regulations, especially for international flights
landemva 5y ago
In 1990s our office manager would order tickets in her name. Whoever got the short straw would visit the customer using the ticket with that lady's name. The name check is only about stopping frequent flier awards ticket resale. It is possible to get through TSA without an ID. I have done it a couple times. Both times (pre-'rona) it took maybe ten minutes longer.

jaywalk 5y ago

You call BS on airlines not knowing who is on a flight being a security issue?

bigmattystyles 5y ago
I call BS on them not being able to handle it - you would still need to show ID to go through the gate and go through security. But if you can buy a ticket at the counter and board 10 minutes later, why can't you transfer the ticket to someone else up to say an hour before the flight. Whatever security checks they do are likely (near) instant. They use security as the pretext for not doing this, but I am guessing the real reason is that would ruin their overbooking schemes.
- astrea 5y ago
  I hate when businesses try to make money
  - serf 5y ago
    > I hate when businesses try to make money who will think of the airline mega-corps and their insanely rich backers that capitalized such a locked-down already-for-profit industry in a country that supports near monopolies on infrastructural services? they're the ones I worry about most.
    - mardifoufs 5y ago
      Airlines aren't exactly known for fabulous margins. I get your point, and I never feel bad for a corporation, but I think airlines are probably one of the few sectors with a hypercompetitive market, tons of options, and pretty low margins. they have basically 0 monopoly, so they compete very harshly on prices and services. Also, I'm not sure who the insanely rich backers would be considering airlines usually aren't exactly family empires and have pretty mediocre investment returns
phendrenad2 5y ago
You still need to present ID to get through security, so they'll still know who got on the plane.

zokier 5y ago

US gov requires passenger data, so that is why tickets are named to specific passengers. Of course you could argue that airlines could facilitate still ticket transfers by updating the data (same way they handle cancellation+new reservation) but I can understand that they don't want to deal with that sort of hassle. https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/government-tsa/secure-flight-passenger-data--sfpd--faqs.html# https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/go... > The Secure Flight Passenger Data program (SFPD) is a program of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) designed to enhance the security of air travel. Secure Flight regulations are mandatory for all flights for U.S.-based carriers and flights which are in, out, or overflights for international –based aircraft operators. > Under Secure Flight regulations all passengers (including minors) must provide Secure Flight Passenger Data (SFPD) at the time of ticketing, or the intent to ticket (i.e. travel vouchers). APIS is another similar requirement of delivering actual passenger manifests of flights: https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/government-tsa/advanced-passenger-information-plus--api---program.html# https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/go... And there are probably a multitude of other regulations, especially for international flights

landemva 5y ago

In 1990s our office manager would order tickets in her name. Whoever got the short straw would visit the customer using the ticket with that lady's name. The name check is only about stopping frequent flier awards ticket resale. It is possible to get through TSA without an ID. I have done it a couple times. Both times (pre-'rona) it took maybe ten minutes longer.