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Well of course, in practice you don't have the CIA couping countries because they became capitalist. Unfortunately for Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Honduras, Guate
by drekk 5y ago
Well of course, in practice you don't have the CIA couping countries because they became capitalist. Unfortunately for Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Uruguay, Paraguay, Nicaragua, Panama (formed by the US for obvious interests in the region), Cuba, Peru, etc. if you want to democratically elect someone who isn't super capitalist your country gets invaded / blockaded / sanctioned.
In the "real world", it's better to disappear a few ten thousand non-US citizens than it is to have a visible competing hegemony. The only countries to survive that pressure (China, DPRK) have only done so because of nuclear armaments which the US (the only country to nuke a city, let alone two) opposes.
Are you sure you know what they achieved? Or are you just repeating the same tired history that was written by the victors of the Cold War, who only had to destabilize the entire middle east by funding the Mujahideen in order to collapse the USSR?
Because I look at lifespan and infant mortalities in Cuba, a tiny country not even a fraction of the US in size or wealth, and they're doing better than the US! In most metrics, the US is near dead last. Why do we pretend like our system works the best? You can say most stable, I'd say the largest standing army in the history of the world is to blame there. Having an economic crisis every decade or so doesn't seem like the system is working.
Other "capitalist" countries doing well, like Germany, were similarly colonial powers that got all the "capital" to invest by yoinking it from slaves they worked all over the globe. The value of silver and gold extracted from Latin America was worth more than all existing capital expenditures in Western Europe up until that point. 8 million natives died in Potosí alone extracting that wealth. Did the system work for them?
- yetihehe 5y ago> In the "real world", it's better to disappear a few ten thousand non-US citizens than it is to have a visible competing hegemony. The only countries to survive that pressure (China, DPRK) have only done so because of nuclear armaments which the US (the only country to nuke a city, let alone two) opposes. From what I've heard about China, it's not all roses there either. It's still better to disappear several thousand non-china citizens (or even some most prominent china citizens) than to admit non-ideality of rulers. It also meshes exactly with real-life communist-led acts I've heard from my parents (I'm several years too young to remember that). Yeah, some people think they had better living then than now and they are missing the times when everything was given to them (but they are not missing the times which came after, where you didn't have anything because the system ran out of "others' people money to give out"). The worst thing is - my country slowly descends back to that state of living, with wide handouts, but money is already starting to run out. They think they still live under capitalism, but it's only in name.
- esarbe 5y agoDo you think that living under Capitalism is a good thing or would you maybe prefer other forms of market economies?
- yetihehe 5y agoNow that you said it in other comment, market socialism looks promising. But I still prefer living under properly constrained capitalism to living under any other currently running system.