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I've watched a few of them. A narrator gives an opinion on another persons motivation or credibility based on their behavior. I don't care for the videos perso

by Canada 5y ago

I've watched a few of them. A narrator gives an opinion on another persons motivation or credibility based on their behavior. I don't care for the videos personally, but aren't we all entitled to watch what we like, have an opinion, and share that opinion with others? I hear a lot of opinion on youtube, and other hosts of user contributed content such as HN that I don't agree with, and yet I would prefer youtube and HN let me hear that it then decide for myself if it's credible, insightful, or otherwise useful to me.

akomtu 5y ago
That's an adult's perspective, but most people are mentally toddlers, they haven't learnt yet to reason, and they can't tell what's an opinion and what's gospel. If you were babysitting a hundred toddlers, and some dude would start telling them about benefits of eating random berries found in the wild, would you defend freedom of speech or would you embrace censorship?
- Mountain_Skies 5y ago
  Do you think these people who you deem to be toddlers mentally should have the right to vote?
  - akomtu 5y ago
    That's the real question. Societies of toddlers do better under monarchy if the monarch is an adult. However in societies of adults, where noone is wiser than others, a democracy is a better choice. So, letting toddlers choose one of theirs as a 'ruler' would be madness. All the social strife these days comes from the fact that both adults and toddlers live on one land and must have one ruler.
- tanseydavid 5y ago
  I do not want my access to information (correct or incorrect) to be limited due to others attempts to protect "mental toddlers" from themselves.
- Canada 5y ago
  The only reasonable option I have is to give others the benefit of the doubt, as I expect others to give me. The videos in question are clearly not directed at children. Do you not see the hypocrisy of your appeal ban one mans commentary on the mental state of adult subjects in these videos based on your own unsubstaintiated commentary of the mental capacity of other adults who are merely viewers of the former? At least the videos we are talking about comment on the movements and words of the subjects therein, flawed as that limited view may be. At least that is something that can be discussed. You offer absolutely no evidence to support your claim that the video viewers are "mentally toddlers", as you don't even know who they are, and yet you have the gall to question the expertise of the publisher.
feet 5y ago
- Canada 5y ago
  Yes, I agree. I don't think this obvious point needs to be stated any more than the fact that reduced video choice makes their service less compelling to many users who are likewise not required to spend time on youtube. Producers are not required to publish on youtube either.
- the_biot 5y ago
  That used to be the argument, same one that shields e.g. ISPs from having to censor their customers. The difference with YouTube (and Facebook, etc) is that they recommend videos, and steering users to controversial/outrageous/extreme videos keeps those users on the platform watching more ads -- making them more money.

by Canada 5y ago

akomtu 5y ago

That's an adult's perspective, but most people are mentally toddlers, they haven't learnt yet to reason, and they can't tell what's an opinion and what's gospel. If you were babysitting a hundred toddlers, and some dude would start telling them about benefits of eating random berries found in the wild, would you defend freedom of speech or would you embrace censorship?

Mountain_Skies 5y ago
Do you think these people who you deem to be toddlers mentally should have the right to vote?
- akomtu 5y ago
  That's the real question. Societies of toddlers do better under monarchy if the monarch is an adult. However in societies of adults, where noone is wiser than others, a democracy is a better choice. So, letting toddlers choose one of theirs as a 'ruler' would be madness. All the social strife these days comes from the fact that both adults and toddlers live on one land and must have one ruler.
tanseydavid 5y ago
I do not want my access to information (correct or incorrect) to be limited due to others attempts to protect "mental toddlers" from themselves.
Canada 5y ago
The only reasonable option I have is to give others the benefit of the doubt, as I expect others to give me. The videos in question are clearly not directed at children. Do you not see the hypocrisy of your appeal ban one mans commentary on the mental state of adult subjects in these videos based on your own unsubstaintiated commentary of the mental capacity of other adults who are merely viewers of the former? At least the videos we are talking about comment on the movements and words of the subjects therein, flawed as that limited view may be. At least that is something that can be discussed. You offer absolutely no evidence to support your claim that the video viewers are "mentally toddlers", as you don't even know who they are, and yet you have the gall to question the expertise of the publisher.

feet 5y ago

Canada 5y ago
Yes, I agree. I don't think this obvious point needs to be stated any more than the fact that reduced video choice makes their service less compelling to many users who are likewise not required to spend time on youtube. Producers are not required to publish on youtube either.
the_biot 5y ago
That used to be the argument, same one that shields e.g. ISPs from having to censor their customers. The difference with YouTube (and Facebook, etc) is that they recommend videos, and steering users to controversial/outrageous/extreme videos keeps those users on the platform watching more ads -- making them more money.