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Whatsapp is also bound to a phone number ...? Is that carrier bound? RCS works through QR code outside, just like you can end text-messages. Why throw out a s

Whatsapp is also bound to a phone number ...? Is that carrier bound? RCS works through QR code outside, just like you can end text-messages. Why throw out a sim card? You can use RCS with ANY carrier. If you can use it with ANY carrier, it's not carrier-lock in. In Belgium, the number is personal and not from someone else. If you transfer carrier, you are allowed by law to take the number with you.

justsomehnguy 5y ago
> Whatsapp is also bound to a phone number ...? Is that carrier bound? In the world with NMP - it is 'carriers' bound, but still - good luck moving to another country and preserving your number. > Why throw out a sim card? There can be any reasons.. but the most common one is someone 'liberate' you of your phone and other belongings (sometimes including documents). So now you want to talk to your family, you get a phone, login with your Google account... and now you are required the same phone number to work it back. So off you go to your telco office to restore the SIM. Oh. It is 3:00 AM and you don't have any documents/ID to prove what you are the someone you claim. And imagine if this would happen not in your backyard, but on the other side of the planet. > In Belgium, the number is personal and not from someone else MNP. But still you are tied to your /number/. Unknown number: "Hey mom! It's me, your son NicoJuicy! I was robbed tonight, can you send $100 so I could get home?" Yes, for me WhatsApp is similar with proposed RCS implementation - it is too 'carriers' bound. I hate what I need to throw my /phone/ number around to everyone to just be able to receive some text from them. I would really prefer some identificator not tied to a local provider of a completely irrelevant service. Telegram, at least, allows you to use a nickname, though it still requires '2FA' through the SMS for the registration.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  Move out to another country and keeping the number is not about the carrier, which a country has multiple of. It's because of the countrycode in your number. Which indicates... The country it of from... This is literally how the routing works in the network... What an idiot example fyi. That's not even about vendor lock-in, it's about stupidity. You can restore documents at the city hall or at the embassy abroad. Ps. I'm more tied to an email. But still doesn't make it carrier lock-in. I also can't use my email when I'm not on the internet...

justsomehnguy 5y ago

> Whatsapp is also bound to a phone number ...? Is that carrier bound? In the world with NMP - it is 'carriers' bound, but still - good luck moving to another country and preserving your number. > Why throw out a sim card? There can be any reasons.. but the most common one is someone 'liberate' you of your phone and other belongings (sometimes including documents). So now you want to talk to your family, you get a phone, login with your Google account... and now you are required the same phone number to work it back. So off you go to your telco office to restore the SIM. Oh. It is 3:00 AM and you don't have any documents/ID to prove what you are the someone you claim. And imagine if this would happen not in your backyard, but on the other side of the planet. > In Belgium, the number is personal and not from someone else MNP. But still you are tied to your /number/. Unknown number: "Hey mom! It's me, your son NicoJuicy! I was robbed tonight, can you send $100 so I could get home?" Yes, for me WhatsApp is similar with proposed RCS implementation - it is too 'carriers' bound. I hate what I need to throw my /phone/ number around to everyone to just be able to receive some text from them. I would really prefer some identificator not tied to a local provider of a completely irrelevant service. Telegram, at least, allows you to use a nickname, though it still requires '2FA' through the SMS for the registration.

NicoJuicy 5y ago
Move out to another country and keeping the number is not about the carrier, which a country has multiple of. It's because of the countrycode in your number. Which indicates... The country it of from... This is literally how the routing works in the network... What an idiot example fyi. That's not even about vendor lock-in, it's about stupidity. You can restore documents at the city hall or at the embassy abroad. Ps. I'm more tied to an email. But still doesn't make it carrier lock-in. I also can't use my email when I'm not on the internet...