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>it is software. It can be updated over the internet. People should run up to date browsers. There are 2 issues 1 some hardware is locked, you can run what yo

>it is software. It can be updated over the internet. People should run up to date browsers. There are 2 issues 1 some hardware is locked, you can run what you want on it, it must be approved. In the TFA is is cearly shown that it was impossible to run a new browser version. 2 since is just software as you said, I assume the developers could install some software and have the JS transpiled to a more compatible version or popup a message if the user does not use latest Chrome or Safari and send them away. Maybe search engine should check this websites in an older browser engine and remove SEO points, also try the website with JS off and if you get nothing, no text that you need JS also remove points.

bee_rider 5y ago
Google should, due to their inability to keep their devices up to date, SEO-down people who use modern features?
- simion314 5y ago
  Not Google, all search engine. And let's not forget that others too lock their devices so you can't install a different browser (Apple too), you should be able to read Wikpedia even if your device is 10 years old, My comment was about "is just software" so should the software guys do the transpilation step rather then forcing users to throw their devices? (since again "IS JUST SFOFTWARE)
  - bee_rider 5y ago
    There's no obligation for websites to support old browsers. NB: this appears to be some volunteering platform. It is probably maintained by volunteers. These volunteers should not have to step up and fill in for incompetence on the part of two of the most profitable companies in human history.
    - simion314 5y ago
      I understand, I am not obligated that my blog work on Safari, I could make it Firefox and Linux only. I also understand that Google and Apple are rich and are always chasing more profits and I don't defend this evil giants. I also understand that are exceptions like you are not building a simple webpage but a very complex image/video/code/graph editor or video game and you need a very specific feature. What I am saying is if you put a webpage that targets everyone (not a limited subset like say our internal team that all run latest Apple shit) then since "is is just software" it is easier to transpile the code then ask the world to throw away their devices and buy new stuff. I am sure you are not OK if all websites will use a new JS feature in the exact day it is released and the updates did not had time to propagate to all users, so the question is how many percent of an users should is small enough so a average webdev can stop using the transpiler and break stuff?

bee_rider 5y ago

Google should, due to their inability to keep their devices up to date, SEO-down people who use modern features?

simion314 5y ago
Not Google, all search engine. And let's not forget that others too lock their devices so you can't install a different browser (Apple too), you should be able to read Wikpedia even if your device is 10 years old, My comment was about "is just software" so should the software guys do the transpilation step rather then forcing users to throw their devices? (since again "IS JUST SFOFTWARE)
- bee_rider 5y ago
  There's no obligation for websites to support old browsers. NB: this appears to be some volunteering platform. It is probably maintained by volunteers. These volunteers should not have to step up and fill in for incompetence on the part of two of the most profitable companies in human history.
  - simion314 5y ago
    I understand, I am not obligated that my blog work on Safari, I could make it Firefox and Linux only. I also understand that Google and Apple are rich and are always chasing more profits and I don't defend this evil giants. I also understand that are exceptions like you are not building a simple webpage but a very complex image/video/code/graph editor or video game and you need a very specific feature. What I am saying is if you put a webpage that targets everyone (not a limited subset like say our internal team that all run latest Apple shit) then since "is is just software" it is easier to transpile the code then ask the world to throw away their devices and buy new stuff. I am sure you are not OK if all websites will use a new JS feature in the exact day it is released and the updates did not had time to propagate to all users, so the question is how many percent of an users should is small enough so a average webdev can stop using the transpiler and break stuff?