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I'm not sure how this would help people to fix this device as the laptop is being sold only to educational entities in bulk. Normal users won't be able to buy.

by sdo72 5y ago

I'm not sure how this would help people to fix this device as the laptop is being sold only to educational entities in bulk. Normal users won't be able to buy. Most people can't fix these since they belong to schools and the schools probably won't spend money on fixing these.

reidjs 5y ago
Have you considered that it might help the people at the school fix it?
- jdavis703 5y ago
  Yes, and that it could help inquisitive students? I know in the old days nerdy kids would do teardowns before we even had YouTube. I would assume kids these days still do it.
  - sdo72 5y ago
    I think kids definitely can fix their own laptops if they're theirs. In this case, the school would prohibit the kids to open or attempt fixing any of the laptop. And why kids should even attempt fixing it? They can turn it in to get a "new" laptop. Thus, this doesn't happen.
- sdo72 5y ago
  I doubt that the school IT people would attempt to fix it. That's a different job. I haven't heard a school IT person even attempts to replace a laptop battery. Any attempt fixing it has a good amount of risk of breaking the laptops. Hence, they school would have to outsource or rely on a 3rd party to fix and the cost would become even higher.
  - reidjs 5y ago
    If it’s under warranty they send it out for the depo repair, but I have been that IT guy before and when there was down time I did crack open dead machines to try and bring them back to life.
nerdponx 5y ago
The somewhat-cynical answer (in addition to the obvious answer that it still is useful for employees of companies that buy it) is that this helps continue rebuilding goodwill among techies, hackers, etc. Much like their investment in open source, there is nontrivial ROI from marketing and reputation alone. They are probably trying to stay ahead of Right To Repair sentiment.
momothereal 5y ago
Many schools and school districts have technicians to repair hardware like projectors and computers. When I was in high-school (10 years ago), we were pretty early in the laptop-for-every-student transition, and there were 1-2 part-time technicians who would repair laptops all day long.
- sdo72 5y ago
  See my other comment above. Hiring a part-time technician to fix the hardware isn't cheap. It's probably cheaper to outsource it to a 3rd party or even sell away the laptop and buy a new one. It doesn't make economic senes to have a technician to fix a $250 laptop.

by sdo72 5y ago

reidjs 5y ago

Have you considered that it might help the people at the school fix it?

jdavis703 5y ago
Yes, and that it could help inquisitive students? I know in the old days nerdy kids would do teardowns before we even had YouTube. I would assume kids these days still do it.
- sdo72 5y ago
  I think kids definitely can fix their own laptops if they're theirs. In this case, the school would prohibit the kids to open or attempt fixing any of the laptop. And why kids should even attempt fixing it? They can turn it in to get a "new" laptop. Thus, this doesn't happen.
sdo72 5y ago
I doubt that the school IT people would attempt to fix it. That's a different job. I haven't heard a school IT person even attempts to replace a laptop battery. Any attempt fixing it has a good amount of risk of breaking the laptops. Hence, they school would have to outsource or rely on a 3rd party to fix and the cost would become even higher.
- reidjs 5y ago
  If it’s under warranty they send it out for the depo repair, but I have been that IT guy before and when there was down time I did crack open dead machines to try and bring them back to life.

nerdponx 5y ago

The somewhat-cynical answer (in addition to the obvious answer that it still is useful for employees of companies that buy it) is that this helps continue rebuilding goodwill among techies, hackers, etc. Much like their investment in open source, there is nontrivial ROI from marketing and reputation alone. They are probably trying to stay ahead of Right To Repair sentiment.

momothereal 5y ago

Many schools and school districts have technicians to repair hardware like projectors and computers. When I was in high-school (10 years ago), we were pretty early in the laptop-for-every-student transition, and there were 1-2 part-time technicians who would repair laptops all day long.

sdo72 5y ago
See my other comment above. Hiring a part-time technician to fix the hardware isn't cheap. It's probably cheaper to outsource it to a 3rd party or even sell away the laptop and buy a new one. It doesn't make economic senes to have a technician to fix a $250 laptop.