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> and he's trying to cheat to get in Sorry, I don't really follow those sports news, so maybe I missed something; but how did he try to cheat? He applied to Au

> and he's trying to cheat to get in Sorry, I don't really follow those sports news, so maybe I missed something; but how did he try to cheat? He applied to Australian Open for an exemption, and was granted an exemption [0]. How is this cheating? [0] - https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1478329044156309505 https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1478329044156309505

MisterBastahrd 5y ago
From the looks of it, it's because he may have lied about his activity and the documents may also be false. Seems that he didn't want to take the vaccine so instead he got a backdated positive test because the rules allow for unvaccinated people with recent positive tests to have more freedom of movement.
toddmatthews 5y ago
his exemption was based on the fact of him having the virus and being recovered. But based on the twitter thread they are suggesting the positive test happened after the negative test.
PopeUrbanX 5y ago
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jmcs 5y ago
He got an exemption the Victoria state rules, this is the same as you getting a paper from Florida saying you can travel freely there and trying to enter the US based on that paper.
- mfer 5y ago
  His exemption was a process provided by the Australian Open tournament. More than twenty people applied for it and only a handful got the exemption. The process they outlined was a blind process (those evaluating the applications did not know who the players were) and two stage. It's not like he tried to cheat the tournament or Australia with this. He was following a provided process. Note, this is separate from any notion of him cheating or not with the process. Just saying it doesn't appear he tried to sneak in by bypassing the processes. The reason he's being looked at instead of the others who went through this process is likely that he posted about it on social media.
  - humanwhosits 5y ago
    > provided by the Australian Open tournament They're not the Australian federal government though, so it's moot.
    - mfer 5y ago
      Whose fault is it if the tournament didn't put a process together that worked properly with the government? The people who used the process or the organization that created it?
      - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
        > Whose fault is it if the tournament didn't put a process together that worked properly with the government? Djokovic may have a claim against the Australian Open for wasting time and causing inconvenience. That doesn't mean Canberra must grant him a visa. And it is in no way an excuse for submitting falsified documents (if he did that, which is far from proven) to Canberra and her courts.
        mfer 5y ago
        If he is singled out while the others who successfully went through this process are not wouldn't it should some form of prejudice? Targeting a high profile player to show that a politician in more powerful, or something like that? The dynamics here are interesting, too.
        notahacker 5y ago
        I assume others who claimed medical exemptions aren't prominent antivaxxers whose request for a medical exemption from completing a course of vaccinations (recommended spacing between doses >21 days) on the basis he was unable to because of a COVID infection less than 21 days before his flight is pretty absurd (even assuming the tests are valid and he answered all visa applications questions truthfully). Just because the public outcry might have prompted politicians to intervene doesn't mean they were wrong to do so
atoav 5y ago
As far as I can follow the accusations this is the current state: - lied about travel activity beforr entering Australia (he declared not having traveled within 14 days prior to entering the country but he flew from spain and had an interview in serbia during this time) - if what zerforschung found here he did not have a negative PCR after getting a positive PCR test first (which would mean he cannot infect others and has bery likely immunity), but a negative PCR and *then* a positive PCR after, which could in the worst case mean he was infected and still travel. In any case my doubt about the truthfulness might be colored by my experience with the uncorrupting nature of serbian bureaucracy. Were I had multiple instances of public officials trying to get bribes for very basic things.
whimsicalism 5y ago
You may not follow sports news, but do you follow the link of the thread you're commenting in?
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- azangru 5y ago
  I did; it was in German; so I closed it.
Handytinge 5y ago
Tennis Australia don't have the authority to issue travel visas or decide entry requirements to the country.

MisterBastahrd 5y ago

From the looks of it, it's because he may have lied about his activity and the documents may also be false. Seems that he didn't want to take the vaccine so instead he got a backdated positive test because the rules allow for unvaccinated people with recent positive tests to have more freedom of movement.

toddmatthews 5y ago

his exemption was based on the fact of him having the virus and being recovered. But based on the twitter thread they are suggesting the positive test happened after the negative test.

PopeUrbanX 5y ago

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jmcs 5y ago

He got an exemption the Victoria state rules, this is the same as you getting a paper from Florida saying you can travel freely there and trying to enter the US based on that paper.

mfer 5y ago
His exemption was a process provided by the Australian Open tournament. More than twenty people applied for it and only a handful got the exemption. The process they outlined was a blind process (those evaluating the applications did not know who the players were) and two stage. It's not like he tried to cheat the tournament or Australia with this. He was following a provided process. Note, this is separate from any notion of him cheating or not with the process. Just saying it doesn't appear he tried to sneak in by bypassing the processes. The reason he's being looked at instead of the others who went through this process is likely that he posted about it on social media.
- humanwhosits 5y ago
  > provided by the Australian Open tournament They're not the Australian federal government though, so it's moot.
  - mfer 5y ago
    Whose fault is it if the tournament didn't put a process together that worked properly with the government? The people who used the process or the organization that created it?
    - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
      > Whose fault is it if the tournament didn't put a process together that worked properly with the government? Djokovic may have a claim against the Australian Open for wasting time and causing inconvenience. That doesn't mean Canberra must grant him a visa. And it is in no way an excuse for submitting falsified documents (if he did that, which is far from proven) to Canberra and her courts.
      - mfer 5y ago
        If he is singled out while the others who successfully went through this process are not wouldn't it should some form of prejudice? Targeting a high profile player to show that a politician in more powerful, or something like that? The dynamics here are interesting, too.
        notahacker 5y ago
        I assume others who claimed medical exemptions aren't prominent antivaxxers whose request for a medical exemption from completing a course of vaccinations (recommended spacing between doses >21 days) on the basis he was unable to because of a COVID infection less than 21 days before his flight is pretty absurd (even assuming the tests are valid and he answered all visa applications questions truthfully). Just because the public outcry might have prompted politicians to intervene doesn't mean they were wrong to do so

atoav 5y ago

As far as I can follow the accusations this is the current state: - lied about travel activity beforr entering Australia (he declared not having traveled within 14 days prior to entering the country but he flew from spain and had an interview in serbia during this time) - if what zerforschung found here he did not have a negative PCR after getting a positive PCR test first (which would mean he cannot infect others and has bery likely immunity), but a negative PCR and *then* a positive PCR after, which could in the worst case mean he was infected and still travel. In any case my doubt about the truthfulness might be colored by my experience with the uncorrupting nature of serbian bureaucracy. Were I had multiple instances of public officials trying to get bribes for very basic things.

whimsicalism 5y ago

You may not follow sports news, but do you follow the link of the thread you're commenting in?

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azangru 5y ago
I did; it was in German; so I closed it.

Handytinge 5y ago

Tennis Australia don't have the authority to issue travel visas or decide entry requirements to the country.