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So essentially something that's considered perfectly normal in American prisons. Bit of a double standards, don't you think?

by trasz 5y ago

ei8htyfi5e 5y ago
- salawat 5y ago
  ...That is factually incorrect. In fact, conviction for a crime is the only Constitutionally valid circumstance under which one can be enslaved in the United States. So there is, in fact, involuntary forced labor in the United States. It does also cause issues, as prison conscripted labor can undercut any semblance of normal rates for menial/unskilled labor. That being said, the previous posters advising this does not negate the enormity of Chinese misconduct, or one's calling it out with similar domestic issues is not an effective or valid form of rhetorical dismissal. The drunk, as it were, is still right to call you out to hand over your keys after a few too many drinks.
  - ei8htyfi5e 5y ago
    And I learned something today https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/work_programs.jsp https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/work_programs.j...
chasd00 5y ago
That is such a disingenuous malevolent comment that i want to preserve it and the context in case you get downvoted off the screen. "So essentially something that's considered perfectly normal in American prisons. Bit of a double standards, don't you think?" by trasz in response to "They are rounded up, regardless of their crimes. 1M+ people have been put in a camp where they are raped, beaten, medically experimented on, re-educated and indoctrinated to praise the CCP, shipped to factories around the country to work without pay, if they escape their families are punished. While Uyghur men are in these camps, Han Chinese men move in with the families left behind and treat the women and children as slaves. They literally buy them. It’s disgusting. It’s evil. See this: https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/ohob7b/uyghur_wom https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/ohob7b/uyghur_wom..." by: ei8htyfi5e
- trasz 5y ago
  So your claim is that prisoners in USA have never been "raped, beaten, medically experimented on, re-educated and indoctrinated to praise the CCP, shipped to factories around the country to work without pay"? (I've skipped the obviously absurd part, although if you count the slavery...) Essentially: try to distinguish between information about facts - which is largely true - and the narration being built around it.
  - network2592 5y ago
    Modern slavery is a fact [0]. Xinjiang is specifically mentioned. Wu Mao is also a fact [1]. Both sources are wikipedia. What is your preferred source of facts? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_slavery [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29893724 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29893724

So essentially something that's considered perfectly normal in American prisons. Bit of a double standards, don't you think?

by trasz 5y ago

So essentially something that's considered perfectly normal in American prisons. Bit of a double standards, don't you think?

ei8htyfi5e 5y ago

salawat 5y ago
...That is factually incorrect. In fact, conviction for a crime is the only Constitutionally valid circumstance under which one can be enslaved in the United States. So there is, in fact, involuntary forced labor in the United States. It does also cause issues, as prison conscripted labor can undercut any semblance of normal rates for menial/unskilled labor. That being said, the previous posters advising this does not negate the enormity of Chinese misconduct, or one's calling it out with similar domestic issues is not an effective or valid form of rhetorical dismissal. The drunk, as it were, is still right to call you out to hand over your keys after a few too many drinks.
- ei8htyfi5e 5y ago
  And I learned something today https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/work_programs.jsp https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/work_programs.j...

chasd00 5y ago

That is such a disingenuous malevolent comment that i want to preserve it and the context in case you get downvoted off the screen. "So essentially something that's considered perfectly normal in American prisons. Bit of a double standards, don't you think?" by trasz in response to "They are rounded up, regardless of their crimes. 1M+ people have been put in a camp where they are raped, beaten, medically experimented on, re-educated and indoctrinated to praise the CCP, shipped to factories around the country to work without pay, if they escape their families are punished. While Uyghur men are in these camps, Han Chinese men move in with the families left behind and treat the women and children as slaves. They literally buy them. It’s disgusting. It’s evil. See this: https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/ohob7b/uyghur_wom https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/ohob7b/uyghur_wom..." by: ei8htyfi5e

trasz 5y ago
So your claim is that prisoners in USA have never been "raped, beaten, medically experimented on, re-educated and indoctrinated to praise the CCP, shipped to factories around the country to work without pay"? (I've skipped the obviously absurd part, although if you count the slavery...) Essentially: try to distinguish between information about facts - which is largely true - and the narration being built around it.
- network2592 5y ago
  Modern slavery is a fact [0]. Xinjiang is specifically mentioned. Wu Mao is also a fact [1]. Both sources are wikipedia. What is your preferred source of facts? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_slavery [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29893724 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29893724