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If you don't like nasty surprises, I recommend that you use Firefox ESR instead: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-U

by iqanq 5y ago

If you don't like nasty surprises, I recommend that you use Firefox ESR instead: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/ (In the same vein, if you use Windows, I recommend Windows LTSC)

2143 5y ago
Whoa, I didn't even know there was a Windows LTSC.
- zeagle 5y ago
  I run Windows 10 LTSC 1809 which has extended support until 2029-01-09 (security and bug fixes). Licensed via my academic institution. It is stripped of the store, edge and a few other features which may be a draw for some.
  - activitypea 5y ago
    How do you browse the web without using Edge or MS Store to download another browser?
    - zeagle 5y ago
      I used Internet Explorer to download Firefox ESR and went from there when setting up the machine.
    - 4cao 5y ago
      curl has been included in Windows for some time (in %SystemRoot%\System32, so even in the %PATH%). If you have a direct download URL, it can be used as a last resort.
4cao 5y ago
Thank you for your suggestions. I've been considering what to do about my Firefox setup for some time (switching to ESR vs one of the forks, which I have to research first). Thing is, I'm using a heavily-customized profile with lots of extensions, Violentmonkey [1] userscripts, containers (including Containerise [2], and Temporary Containers [3]), and a custom user.js (based on [4]), so I should also revisit the settings for all of these at the same time as it's been a while since I last did so. It's all on my to-do list but as the current setup works well, there's always something more urgent to do instead. 1. https://violentmonkey.github.io/ https://violentmonkey.github.io/ 2. https://github.com/kintesh/containerise https://github.com/kintesh/containerise 3. https://github.com/stoically/temporary-containers https://github.com/stoically/temporary-containers 4. https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js The LTSC suggestion is also good. I'm already using a heavily-debloated LTSC with lots of unnecessary packages removed (including the hidden ones, which are not supposed to be officially removable), and all kinds of customizations for privacy, security, performance, and convenience. While I'm satisfied with my setup (automated with custom scripts I've been maintaining since Windows 8), the number of hoops one has to go through to have their computer do what the user wants and nothing else, or a "User-Agent" that gives actual agency to the user these days is truly astonishing, and makes the goal unattainable for most people.

by iqanq 5y ago

2143 5y ago

Whoa, I didn't even know there was a Windows LTSC.

zeagle 5y ago
I run Windows 10 LTSC 1809 which has extended support until 2029-01-09 (security and bug fixes). Licensed via my academic institution. It is stripped of the store, edge and a few other features which may be a draw for some.
- activitypea 5y ago
  How do you browse the web without using Edge or MS Store to download another browser?
  - zeagle 5y ago
    I used Internet Explorer to download Firefox ESR and went from there when setting up the machine.
  - 4cao 5y ago
    curl has been included in Windows for some time (in %SystemRoot%\System32, so even in the %PATH%). If you have a direct download URL, it can be used as a last resort.

4cao 5y ago

Thank you for your suggestions. I've been considering what to do about my Firefox setup for some time (switching to ESR vs one of the forks, which I have to research first). Thing is, I'm using a heavily-customized profile with lots of extensions, Violentmonkey [1] userscripts, containers (including Containerise [2], and Temporary Containers [3]), and a custom user.js (based on [4]), so I should also revisit the settings for all of these at the same time as it's been a while since I last did so. It's all on my to-do list but as the current setup works well, there's always something more urgent to do instead. 1. https://violentmonkey.github.io/ https://violentmonkey.github.io/ 2. https://github.com/kintesh/containerise https://github.com/kintesh/containerise 3. https://github.com/stoically/temporary-containers https://github.com/stoically/temporary-containers 4. https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js The LTSC suggestion is also good. I'm already using a heavily-debloated LTSC with lots of unnecessary packages removed (including the hidden ones, which are not supposed to be officially removable), and all kinds of customizations for privacy, security, performance, and convenience. While I'm satisfied with my setup (automated with custom scripts I've been maintaining since Windows 8), the number of hoops one has to go through to have their computer do what the user wants and nothing else, or a "User-Agent" that gives actual agency to the user these days is truly astonishing, and makes the goal unattainable for most people.