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>That is a religious viewpoint, not based in fact. Either show the proof or retract it, statements like that add nothing to the discourse. It also makes it hard

by fock 5y ago

>That is a religious viewpoint, not based in fact. Either show the proof or retract it, statements like that add nothing to the discourse. It also makes it hard to take the rest of your question seriously. https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4433/9/5/187/htm https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4433/9/5/187/htm - this looks very much like it can kill a lot of us and I wonder how many will survive the following chaos. I also still don't get how you are pro-nuclear and think climate-change is not an existential threat, but so be it. It makes it hard for me to take you seriously.

hagbard_c 5y ago
Climate change is not an existential threat because climate change is something which the human race has been subject to since forever. Sometimes the change was radical, sometimes subtle. Radical as in glaciation, subtle as in the "Little Ice Age" or the warmer periods which saw the flourishing of the Roman and Viking civilisations - which, incidentally, both declined once the climate turned cooler. Humans are adaptable animals and will make it through the effects of whatever turn the climate makes this time as well. Thinking otherwise is just silly doomsday prophetising. This is, by the way, also why I am pro-nuclear. It is clear that there are better ways of generating electricity than burning fossil fuels (which lead to environmental pollution/destruction as well as often subsidising less savoury regimes (and companies)). I'm also for putting PV panels on top of roofs an other "unused" surfaces while I see "solar farms" as a waste of space unless established in deserts or similar areas. I'd suggest to read [1] some [2] books [3] and think this whole "we're all going to die" thing over. Yes, die we will, all of us, but not for the reason or in the way many people seem to think. [1] https://www.unsettledsciencebook.com/ https://www.unsettledsciencebook.com/ [2] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56643992-false-alarm https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56643992-false-alarm [3] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50173134-apocalypse-never https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50173134-apocalypse-neve...

by fock 5y ago

hagbard_c 5y ago

Climate change is not an existential threat because climate change is something which the human race has been subject to since forever. Sometimes the change was radical, sometimes subtle. Radical as in glaciation, subtle as in the "Little Ice Age" or the warmer periods which saw the flourishing of the Roman and Viking civilisations - which, incidentally, both declined once the climate turned cooler. Humans are adaptable animals and will make it through the effects of whatever turn the climate makes this time as well. Thinking otherwise is just silly doomsday prophetising. This is, by the way, also why I am pro-nuclear. It is clear that there are better ways of generating electricity than burning fossil fuels (which lead to environmental pollution/destruction as well as often subsidising less savoury regimes (and companies)). I'm also for putting PV panels on top of roofs an other "unused" surfaces while I see "solar farms" as a waste of space unless established in deserts or similar areas. I'd suggest to read [1] some [2] books [3] and think this whole "we're all going to die" thing over. Yes, die we will, all of us, but not for the reason or in the way many people seem to think. [1] https://www.unsettledsciencebook.com/ https://www.unsettledsciencebook.com/ [2] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56643992-false-alarm https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56643992-false-alarm [3] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50173134-apocalypse-never https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50173134-apocalypse-neve...