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my mother is still talking about Chernobyl today, it definitely left a mark especially when you had kids at the time
by dabber21 5y ago
my mother is still talking about Chernobyl today, it definitely left a mark especially when you had kids at the time
- Ygg2 5y agoChernobyl right now is biggest/safest wildlife preserve in Europe.
- ivan_gammel 5y agoTell that to the victims of that catastrophe.
- theshrike79 5y agoThe "victims" were victims of Soviet policy, not of nuclear energy. A majority of the deaths due to fallout would've been prevented if The Party would've admitted they messed up and told everyone to eat canned food for a few weeks. Iodine-131 has a half-life of 8 days. Maybe even distributed more iodine pills for the population. But nope, The Party could do no wrong and was always right, so they did nothing and said nothing.
- ivan_gammel 5y agoThis is a typical Western oversimplification of communist regimes. If there is a Party, it is to blame, of course. But you are wrong. The casualties of such incidents are coming not just from the poor immediate responses, but also from long term environmental, social and economic effects. Even if in Fukushima disaster people did not die from acute radiation syndrome, there are still several thousands of deaths attributed to the disaster. Same with Chernobyl, Mayak etc.
- theshrike79 5y agoYes, people died in the panic resulting from the evacuation in Fukushima. But is that the fault of nuclear power? Do you "attribute" deaths caused by other energy production means the same way? Coal kills people every day. People die when installing wind farms, do they count?
- ivan_gammel 5y agoLet me be more clear about my comment above: I was responding to a message claiming that nuclear disaster produced a wildlife reserve. I do not care about statistics and causes of death in this context, because they are simply irrelevant (and of course I know those facts). If someone said that Nazis postponed climate change by reducing population of Europe, would you be equally engaged in discussing the exact numbers?
- fsflover 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power#/media/File:Death_rates_from_energy_production_per_TWh_(including_solar).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power#/media/File:Deat...
- ivan_gammel 5y agoI’m well aware of the statistics, but your link is irrelevant to my comment. It is simply insensitive to picturing Chernobyl as something beneficial for the environment.
- fsflover 5y agoYou are trying to show something very unlikely as having a serious danger. Statistics is very relevant here.
- ivan_gammel 5y agoWhat part of „insensitive“ did you read as misrepresentation of danger?
- dabber21 5y agoit's not only that. It's that the radioactive cloud doesn't care about borders
- chromanoid 5y agohttps://newsroom.iza.org/en/archive/research/how-the-chernobyl-cloud-affected-cognitive-abilities-in-germany/ https://newsroom.iza.org/en/archive/research/how-the-chernob... https://www.bfs.de/EN/topics/ion/accident-management/emergency/chernobyl/health-effects-europe.html https://www.bfs.de/EN/topics/ion/accident-management/emergen...
- mateo1 5y agoExcept of all the cancer incidence in the wild animal population despite their short lifespans, the massively radioactive furs... Yes it's the biggest preserve because nobody can live there.